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PostSubject: Deflategate   Sun Jan 25, 2015 1:17 am

Does anybody think Brady and Belichick are telling the truth or are they lying? Personally I think they are lying.
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PostSubject: Re: Same Patriots****, different storyline   Sun Jan 25, 2015 9:38 am

bellycheat seamed truthful*


brady............not so much

* truthful is a stretch









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PostSubject: Re: Same Patriots****, different storyline   Sun Jan 25, 2015 10:14 am

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Patriots*** Always Keep a Tight Grip on the Ball
Since 2010, New England Has the Lowest Fumble Rate in the NFL

The moral of the story is a 16% change in the football leads to a 50% improvement for the Patriots* (in regards to fumbles). People have fried in the electric chair over less evidence. But think about it ... how many games does that equate to? Having a football that results in players fumbling less than half of what they did when not playing for the Patriots* is a huge difference maker when it comes to the outcomes of games.

And I now question Brady's interception rate. He has a ball that obviously provides him with better grip. If that prevents him from throwing 3 or 4 picks a year, how many games does that change. To go even further, how many drives does he keep alive, by completing 3rd downs, that he might not have done with a legal ball? And take it another step further: If the Patriots* win one or two more games a year that they might not normally have won, does that make the difference in playing a home playoff game or even making the playoffs?

We've all heard Tomlin and Cowher talk about the fine line between winning and losing and it's obvious to me the Patriots* have moved that line significantly to their favor. In a sport that has the best athletes in the world, a 16% change is the difference between average and dominance for your team.
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PostSubject: Re: Same Patriots****, different storyline   Sun Jan 25, 2015 10:21 am

Have to look at the history of their organization....

Cheating is in their blood.

I think they do WHATEVER they can to win game. Scums.

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PostSubject: Re: Same Patriots****, different storyline   Sun Jan 25, 2015 10:24 am

That's a great question. They were both lying. So Belicheat, on one hand, is praised for being involved in every detail of his team. But now that there's another cheating scandal, he doesn't pay attention to such mundane activities? I call BS. Look, he was caught cheating to win 3 Super Bowls and several games during the regular and post season beyond those championships. His character is that he's a cheater. It's like any other criminal ... how many actually change after they've been caught. Then consider this guy really wasn't punished. No, I've always suspected he was still cheating, just not getting caught.

And for Belicheat to stand up and say that his team has followed every letter of the rules is a complete exaggeration. How can he say that, then say he doesn't pay attention to the details. His story doesn't add up.

As for Brady: He's very flaky. Just listen to anything this guys says. And his own wife all but calls him a flake (I think she uses the term naive). But he's not completely mentally handicapped. He knows what was happening with those footballs. I suspect this started way back after the "in-the-grasp" game. That's the play that changed everything and since then, Brady has had very few issues holding onto the ball.
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PostSubject: Re: Same Patriots****, different storyline   Sun Jan 25, 2015 10:25 am

Look at the game last year (Steelers vs. Patriots*). Both QBs threw for 400+ yards and put up a ton of points in the game in Foxborough. Coincidence?

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PostSubject: Re: Same Patriots****, different storyline   Mon Jan 26, 2015 9:20 am

And also consider that when Robert Kraft asked Belicheat to rank on a scale of 1 - 100 how much Spygate helped the Patriots* win their championships, Belicheat answered "1". D-bag. But like any common criminal, he's just denying his involvement and the impact of the crime. Next, he'll blame the other teams for making him do this - "They had it coming. I mean come on, they practically were begging me to deflate those footballs."
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PostSubject: Re: Same Patriots****, different storyline   Mon Jan 26, 2015 12:53 pm


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PostSubject: Re: Same Patriots****, different storyline   Mon Jan 26, 2015 7:23 pm

Did NFL run sting operation on Patriots** to trigger deflate-gate?

Forget all about the most debated topics that have stemmed from the New England Patriots**' use of deflated footballs in the AFC championship game – did Tom Brady order it, did Bill Belichick know about it, is Bill Nye the Science Guy even a scientist?

The question that has clues but no conclusion, the one that could prove to be the biggest and most historic of them all is this: Did the NFL run a sting operation on the Patriots**?

And if so, shouldn't the Indianapolis Colts, and the rest of the league, be more upset about the league's investigative tactics than anything New England has been accused of doing?

Reports have emerged during the past week that NFL teams, including the Colts, complained during the regular season and perhaps playoffs about the Patriots** using underinflated footballs. Fox Sports' Jay Glazer reported that in response to those complaints, the league always planned on checking New England's footballs at halftime. ESPN's Ed Werder reiterated that suggestion on Twitter on Sunday.

If so then the NFL was willing to let New England use a deflated football to its advantage for the first half of a game with the Super Bowl on the line, rather than stop the contest immediately and check, or even just warn the Patriots** of their concerns prior to kickoff to make sure everything was fair and square for all 60 minutes.

This would be … astounding.

READ MORE: http://sports.yahoo.com/news/did-nfl-run-sting-operation-on-Patriots**-to-trigger-deflate-gate--051258575.html

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PostSubject: Re: Same Patriots****, different storyline   Tue Jan 27, 2015 12:57 pm

^^^^^^^^^^^

The NFL has become a joke. It's now a huge bureaucracy with far too many unnecessary and confusing rules. Take for instance ...

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An untoward display in Sunday's NFC Championship Game will hit Marshawn Lynch where it hurts: his wallet.

NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport reported Thursday, per a league source, that the Seattle Seahawks running back was fined $20,000 for his obscene gesture after scoring a fourth-quarter touchdown in the 28-22 overtime win against the Green Bay Packers.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000461992/article/seahawks-lynch-fined-20k-for-obscene-gesture?campaign=Twitter_atn_sessler

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The NFL reportedly warned the Seahawks that they will be penalized 15 yards for unsportsmanlike conduct if running back Marshawn Lynch makes an obscene gesture during the Super Bowl.

Lynch has been fined twice in recent weeks for grabbing his crotch on touchdowns. That included a $20,000 penalty after he did it in the NFC championship game last Sunday.

http://triblive.com/sports/nfl/7633208-74/nfl-bowl-yards#axzz3Po8cB1oU

We all know taunting and obscene gestures are not allowed in the NFL. I think we can all agree that grabbing your crotch after scoring a TD (as Lynch does) would qualify as both taunting and obscene. So if he has been fined for it twice, why has he not been penalized during the games? And if the refs didn't think it was worthy of a penalty before, then how can it suddenly be worthy of a penalty now? You can't change the rules in the middle of the game (or the playoffs). If Lynch's crotch grab had been a penalty before this Sunday, there's a good chance that he and the Seahawks wouldn't be playing in the Super Bowl.

Like I said, the NFL has become a joke. It deserves Deflategate.

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PostSubject: Re: Same Patriots****, different storyline   Wed Jan 28, 2015 5:31 pm

It's no mystery that Goodell is ruining the NFL. He's just lucky that other sports are broke worse.

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PostSubject: Re: Same Patriots****, different storyline   Tue Feb 03, 2015 1:22 pm

Immediately after the game, I said the NFL has a problem. How do you find the Patriots* guilty of cheating after they just won the Super Bowl? This topic will magically become a non-issue. The results of the investigation will "reveal" the balls really weren't under-inflated or were under-inflated by such a small amount that no one can complain. As long as there is no photo or video evidence, the Commish will throw dirt on it and call it dead. Obviously, that doesn't take into consideration that teams were making noise that the balls were under-inflated prior to that one game. But hey, prove it!
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