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PostSubject: Re: Brandon Boykin Believes He Could’ve Contributed Sooner This Season   Mon Dec 07, 2015 11:48 pm

Don't hear this much praise for Mike Mitchell when he INTs a jump ball, but fuck it, I'll take it. Even Cortez coulda' caught that one.

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PostSubject: Re: Brandon Boykin Believes He Could’ve Contributed Sooner This Season   Tue Dec 08, 2015 1:08 am

So Boykin had 2 passes defended and an INT in 42 plays. Not even sure if he allowed a reception when he was targeted.

Blake had no passes defended in 32 plays and I can remember him allowing a couple receptions in the 1st half and I think another to Hilton, if not more in the 2nd half. At least if he is only in 32 plays, he isn't likely to get targeted 15 times like the Raider game and get beat 13 times.
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PostSubject: Re: Brandon Boykin Believes He Could’ve Contributed Sooner This Season   Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:36 pm

All I know is we where getting gashed the last couple weeks, and Hasselbeck was undefeated up until this week when we inserted Boykin. Coincidence? I think NOT!
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PostSubject: Re: Brandon Boykin Believes He Could’ve Contributed Sooner This Season   Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:25 pm

Blake should switch to safety or something.

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PostSubject: Re: Brandon Boykin Believes He Could’ve Contributed Sooner This Season   Fri Dec 11, 2015 5:52 pm

Lake's decision helped put Boykin on field for Steelers

By Mark Kaboly
Thursday, Dec. 10, 2015

For weeks, Brandon Boykin was saying that all he needed was an opportunity, and when that opportunity presented itself, he was “1,000 percent sure that I am going to do what I have been doing the past three or four years of my career.”

Who knew the key to that opportunity ultimately was held by defensive backs coach Carnell Lake — with, of course, coach Mike Tomlin signing off on it?

Lake said Thursday, as the Steelers prepared for Sunday's key AFC North game against the Cincinnati Bengals, that he was the one who thought it was “about time” to give Boykin more playing time.

Or, in this case, any playing time at all.

After Boykin, a player the Steelers traded a conditional fifth-round pick to the Philadelphia Eagles for in training camp, made the “1,000 percent” proclamation in late October, he didn't take a defensive snap over the next four games until Sunday against the Indianapolis Colts.

“To be honest with you, I just thought it was about time, and Coach Tomlin agreed,” Lake said. “We made the change to help the unit out and give the unit some energy and provide productivity in the end, and that's what happened. I thought it was time, and we got the changes made.”

The Steelers reduced first-year starter Antwon Blake's playing time by nearly a half and inserted Boykin into the slot, where he played 40 of the final 52 snaps against the Colts on Sunday and came up with a key interception and pass breakup.

That rotation will stay intact Sunday against a much more dynamic Cincinnati offense highlighted by receivers A.J. Green, Marvin Jones and Mohamed Sanu and tight end Tyler Eifert.

“I liked it, I think it helps us,” defensive coordinator Keith Butler said. “Our guys were getting worn out this time of year. We played a lot of football games, including five preseason games. Those guys have never played that many snaps in a season.”

Lake said the reason he didn't pull the trigger earlier with Boykin and Blake was a matter of his coaching philosophy, even if the Steelers allowed three consecutive 300-yard passing games.

“I don't like to do knee-jerk reactions, especially when I have young guys and they are trying to learn,” Lake said. “You have to give them the opportunity to make mistakes and learn from it and grow. If you shuffle the deck all the time, then it doesn't allow for that or breaks down the player's confidence.”

But with Blake struggling with his tackling (he leads NFL cornerbacks with 23 missed tackles, eight more than the next highest) and giving up splash plays, Lake knew it was time to alter things. Plus, it gave Blake more of a chance to focus on special teams.

“I remember my first year starting,” Lake said. “It was a lot. You get over the hump, but your productivity slides a little bit, so I wanted to make sure before it became a real problem that we could do something about it.”

Still, the situation is fluid. While Boykin played well against the Colts, he's sure to be tested in a number of ways by the Bengals, including the running game. Cincinnati's power back is Jeremy Hill, who has 588 yards and eight touchdowns.

“Every player on their defense is going to have their spots, and they are going to have to stand up and buck up and handle their business,” Lake said. “Each player comes with something he has to deal with. Boykin has his, just like the rest of the guys, and we are going to have to address those issues and (make sure) they get the job done.”

Boykin, one of the smaller corners in the league at 5-foot-10, 182 pounds, scoffed at the notion he can't stand up to the run game even though he mentioned teams trying to run at him at times.

Boykin had 112 tackles in three years with the Eagles, including 102 solo while playing the majority of his plays as the slot corner.

“It's never been a problem,” Boykin said. “I missed a tackle last game, but I missed like four or five tackles in my career. Anytime you have a defensive back in the run position, they are going to use that to see if you can tackle. Once they see that you can tackle, they don't mess with it.”

http://triblive.com/sports/steelers/9605551-74/boykin-lake-defensive#ixzz3u3Sy2T33

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PostSubject: Re: Brandon Boykin Believes He Could’ve Contributed Sooner This Season   Fri Dec 11, 2015 6:23 pm

Let's see what this slightly revamped secondary can do against ginger come Sunday! Let's hope Boykin can continue to prove his worth!

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PostSubject: Re: Brandon Boykin Believes He Could’ve Contributed Sooner This Season   Fri Dec 11, 2015 6:33 pm

Sad. Carnell Lake watched Blake struggle vs the Cardinals, Raiders, Browns and be consistently bad in coverage and tackling...but still left him in vs the Seahawks to get abused more. All because he wants the "young guys to learn".

They played a bad CB so he can learn and not ruin his confidence, rather than playing somebody better, so the team could have a chance to win.

Pretty clear that Blake is Tomlin and Lake's "guy" and they want to build him up, but left him in too long while performing poorly. Boykin is only here for the next 4 games.
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PostSubject: Re: Brandon Boykin Believes He Could’ve Contributed Sooner This Season   Fri Dec 11, 2015 11:18 pm

^^^ "about time to give him a chance" .............. Wow! They're geniuses!
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PostSubject: Re: Brandon Boykin Believes He Could’ve Contributed Sooner This Season   Sun Dec 13, 2015 11:11 am

Imagine if Boykin was in on the first ratbird game. Maybe the game wouldn't have come down to missed FGs.

Then again, maybe it was a blessing in disguise.

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PostSubject: Re: Brandon Boykin Believes He Could’ve Contributed Sooner This Season   Sun Dec 13, 2015 12:54 pm

Tomlin Says Boykin Had To Earn His Opportunities

BY DAVE BRYAN DECEMBER 13, 2015

Now that Pittsburgh Steelers cornerback Brandon Boykin has started seeing extensive playing time on defense we expect it to continue Sunday afternoon against the Cincinnati Bengals. If you were wondering, why we haven’t seen more of Boykin on the field more up until this point, you were not alone. In fact, head coach Mike Tomlin was asked about that very thing on Saturday by Bob Labriolaof Steelers Digest.

“Opportunities and reps have to be earned,” said Tomlin. “Brandon was new to us and we were getting to know him. The train got going and we were having some consistent success with the mix of people we had. Sometimes you just have to bide your time and wait for your opportunity, and it has nothing to do with what you’ve done or what you didn’t do. That’s just football, but it’s also life.”

Tomlin’s remarks about his defense having consistent success this season are a bit over the top and especially when it comes to cornerback Antwon Blake, who has struggled mightily all season in both the coverage and tackling phases of his game. Tomlin, however, isn’t going to throw Blake underneath the bus.

While Boykin may have had to earn his reps, Blake certainly wasn’t earning the right to stay on the field and especially being as he looked like he was playing injured for the past several weeks.

As of last Sunday, Blake was relegated to mostly playing on run downs as a result of the changes that were made in the Steelers secondary with Ross Cockrell taking over outside on passing downs. In fact, had William Gay not had to leave the field late in that game, Blake’s snap total would’ve been considerably less.

Boykin, on the other hand, made an instant impact in last week’s game as he recorded his first interception of the season in the first quarter in just his second defensive snap. Sure, Gay caused that interception, but at least Boykin was in the right spot to make a play on the football. Boykin also recorded a defensed pass later on it that game.

Sunday against the Bengals it will be interesting to track how Blake is used on defense and specifically if he’s allowed to match-up against wide receiver A.J. Green when his offense utilizes 11 personnel. In the last meeting between the two teams, Green caught 11 passes for 118 yards and a touchdown with several of those catches coming against Blake.

In short, we expect the train to move forward with Boykin playing a lot in the nickel as he’s earned the opportunity due to Blake’s poor play. You’ll never hear Tomlin say that, however.

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2015/12/mike-tomlin-brandon-boykin-week-14-bengals-steelers/

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PostSubject: Re: Brandon Boykin Believes He Could’ve Contributed Sooner This Season   Sun Dec 13, 2015 11:34 pm

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Tomlin Says Boykin Had To Earn His Opportunities

Ah Blake, you had some good plays (spiking AJ Green), and some really bad ones, and as for earning his play time he did that last year subbing for Cortez. But alas, even though our secondary has more holes in it than a linen factory full of moths, I actually see the Gay and Cockrell outside, with Boykin slot configuration as being better than the Blake and Cockrell outside, with Gay in the slot. I've defended Blake for a while now, and he's made a fair amount of great plays, but I can now say that Gay is our best CB and needs to be playing outside. Boykin appears better than Gay in the slot, and Blake seems better as a back-up, so I'm all for playing this secondary from here on out.

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PostSubject: Re: Brandon Boykin Believes He Could’ve Contributed Sooner This Season   Mon Dec 14, 2015 12:46 pm

I want to know when Boykin became this superstar lockdown CB ...talk about rearranging the deck chairs on this titanic of a secondary
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PostSubject: Re: Brandon Boykin Believes He Could’ve Contributed Sooner This Season   Mon Dec 14, 2015 2:07 pm

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I want to know when Boykin became this superstar lockdown CB ...talk about rearranging the deck chairs on this titanic of a secondary

In 2014. Boykin played 524 defensive snaps for the Eagles(150 outside, 374 in the slot). Boykin allowed 0 TD receptions against him in 524 snaps.

http://www.si.com/nfl/2015/05/27/hidden-talents-slot-cornerbacks-brandon-boykin-jerraud-powers-casey-hayward

So why not play him in the slot and let Gay play outside?? I bet Blake has allowed at least 10 TD's this year by now.
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PostSubject: Re: Brandon Boykin Believes He Could’ve Contributed Sooner This Season   Mon Dec 14, 2015 2:55 pm

Sooooooo what's the story with Boykin? Is he not getting many snaps after all? Didn't see him this last game. Maybe I'm just blind.

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PostSubject: Re: Brandon Boykin Believes He Could’ve Contributed Sooner This Season   Mon Dec 14, 2015 3:03 pm

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Sooooooo what's the story with Boykin? Is he not getting many snaps after all? Didn't see him this last game. Maybe I'm just blind.

He got 67% of the snaps (39 on defense). He got more playing time after Blake got burned by Green. After that play, Blake didn't play a single snap in the nickel. Looks like tomlin finally lost his patience with blake.

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2015/12/steelers-vs-bengals-player-snap-counts-week-13/

Taking Blake out of obvious passing situations (nickel) can only improve the passing D. Gay on the outside has been solid so far.
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PostSubject: Re: Brandon Boykin Believes He Could’ve Contributed Sooner This Season   Tue Dec 15, 2015 10:59 am

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The_Joker wrote:
Sooooooo what's the story with Boykin? Is he not getting many snaps after all? Didn't see him this last game. Maybe I'm just blind.

He got 67% of the snaps (39 on defense). He got more playing time after Blake got burned by Green. After that play, Blake didn't play a single snap in the nickel. Looks like tomlin finally lost his patience with blake.

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2015/12/steelers-vs-bengals-player-snap-counts-week-13/

Taking Blake out of obvious passing situations (nickel) can only improve the passing D. Gay on the outside has been solid so far.

Pro Football Focus also thought Gay played well in Cincinnati

Top performers:

LB Ryan Shazier +3.1
QB Ben Roethlisberger +1.8
RG David DeCastro +1.7
CB William Gay +1.6
OLB James Harrison +1.2


https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/12/14/pro-pit-cin-grades-dalton-leaves-game-steelers-roll-over-bengals/

Snap counts for CBs on Sunday

• William Gay, 48 of 58

• Ross Cockrell, 46 of 58

• Brandon Boykin, 39 of 58

• Antwon Blake, 31 of 58


http://triblive.com/sports/steelers/9628213-74/roethlisberger-steelers-pass#ixzz3uPDQlxb2
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PostSubject: Re: Brandon Boykin Believes He Could’ve Contributed Sooner This Season   Tue Dec 15, 2015 11:50 am

Ryan Shazier had a beast of a game. He made a few tackles that stopped a play from getting 1st down yardage, and it was due to his closing speed. If it had been any other LB in that position, even timmons, I think the bengals would have gotten a few more 1st downs. Could have been huge since a few of those stops were on 3rd down.
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PostSubject: Re: Brandon Boykin Believes He Could’ve Contributed Sooner This Season   Tue Dec 15, 2015 12:16 pm

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Ryan Shazier had a beast of a game. He made a few tackles that stopped a play from getting 1st down yardage, and it was due to his closing speed. If it had been any other LB in that position, even timmons, I think the bengals would have gotten a few more 1st downs. Could have been huge since a few of those stops were on 3rd down.

PFF once again was not enthusiastic about the performance of Timmons

Timmons was better in coverage (+0.7) than he was against the run (-2.2) as he missed two tackles in the run game and was owned at the second level by right guard Kevin Zeitler on an 18-yard fourth quarter run. Timmons simply hasn’t been the same player this season.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/12/14/pro-pit-cin-grades-dalton-leaves-game-steelers-roll-over-bengals/

With ILB depth and contracts coming due on offense there might be some question about extending Timmons after his current deal expires after 2016. But the Steelers then have to deal with having created more dead money by reworking Timmons contract at the start of this season.

Timmons had his base salary of $6.63 million converted into a fully guaranteed signing bonus, according to the source. His new base salary for 2015 is $870,000.

http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2015/09/07/Pittsburgh-Steelers-restructure-Lawrence-Timmons-contract/stories/201509070106

http://overthecap.com/player/lawrence-timmons/1618/
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PostSubject: Re: Brandon Boykin Believes He Could’ve Contributed Sooner This Season   Tue Dec 15, 2015 12:32 pm

I still think Timmons is a good LB, not his best game, but I'm not worried about that. His track record for the most part is solid.

Those plays Shazier made shows why they drafted him though. He played a huge role in not allowing the dink & dunk passing game to equate to first downs on 3rd and medium-long that have been plaguing us forever. If we do have another showdown with the Pats*** in the playoffs, we're going to need Shazier healthy, he's going to be key to stopping that offense when we need to.
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PostSubject: Re: Brandon Boykin Believes He Could’ve Contributed Sooner This Season   Tue Dec 15, 2015 12:34 pm

Atlanta Dan wrote:
Fire Arians wrote:
Ryan Shazier had a beast of a game. He made a few tackles that stopped a play from getting 1st down yardage, and it was due to his closing speed. If it had been any other LB in that position, even timmons, I think the bengals would have gotten a few more 1st downs. Could have been huge since a few of those stops were on 3rd down.

PFF once again was not enthusiastic about the performance of Timmons

Timmons was better in coverage (+0.7) than he was against the run (-2.2) as he missed two tackles in the run game and was owned at the second level by right guard Kevin Zeitler on an 18-yard fourth quarter run. Timmons simply hasn’t been the same player this season.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/12/14/pro-pit-cin-grades-dalton-leaves-game-steelers-roll-over-bengals/

With ILB depth and contracts coming due on offense there might be some question about extending Timmons after his current deal expires after 2016.  But the Steelers then have to deal with having created more dead money by reworking Timmons contract at the start of this season.

Timmons had his base salary of $6.63 million converted into a fully guaranteed signing bonus, according to the source. His new base salary for 2015 is $870,000.

http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2015/09/07/Pittsburgh-Steelers-restructure-Lawrence-Timmons-contract/stories/201509070106

http://overthecap.com/player/lawrence-timmons/1618/

The only good thing is we have Woodley and Polamalu coming off the books this year. That's $12 million right there.
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PostSubject: Re: Brandon Boykin Believes He Could’ve Contributed Sooner This Season   Tue Dec 15, 2015 11:17 pm

Atlanta Dan wrote:
Fire Arians wrote:
The_Joker wrote:
Sooooooo what's the story with Boykin? Is he not getting many snaps after all? Didn't see him this last game. Maybe I'm just blind.

He got 67% of the snaps (39 on defense). He got more playing time after Blake got burned by Green. After that play, Blake didn't play a single snap in the nickel. Looks like tomlin finally lost his patience with blake.

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2015/12/steelers-vs-bengals-player-snap-counts-week-13/

Taking Blake out of obvious passing situations (nickel) can only improve the passing D. Gay on the outside has been solid so far.

Pro Football Focus also thought Gay played well in Cincinnati

Top performers:

LB Ryan Shazier +3.1
QB Ben Roethlisberger +1.8
RG David DeCastro +1.7
CB William Gay +1.6
OLB James Harrison +1.2


https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/12/14/pro-pit-cin-grades-dalton-leaves-game-steelers-roll-over-bengals/

Snap counts for CBs on Sunday

• William Gay, 48 of 58

• Ross Cockrell, 46 of 58

• Brandon Boykin, 39 of 58

• Antwon Blake, 31 of 58


http://triblive.com/sports/steelers/9628213-74/roethlisberger-steelers-pass#ixzz3uPDQlxb2

PFF scored the top 5 Steelers at a total of 9.4 and the top 5 Bengals at 17.4... Geez... you'd think that the Bengals won...
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PostSubject: Re: Brandon Boykin Believes He Could’ve Contributed Sooner This Season   Wed Dec 16, 2015 9:47 am

DesertSteel wrote:
Atlanta Dan wrote:
Fire Arians wrote:
The_Joker wrote:
Sooooooo what's the story with Boykin? Is he not getting many snaps after all? Didn't see him this last game. Maybe I'm just blind.

He got 67% of the snaps (39 on defense). He got more playing time after Blake got burned by Green. After that play, Blake didn't play a single snap in the nickel. Looks like tomlin finally lost his patience with blake.

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2015/12/steelers-vs-bengals-player-snap-counts-week-13/

Taking Blake out of obvious passing situations (nickel) can only improve the passing D. Gay on the outside has been solid so far.

Pro Football Focus also thought Gay played well in Cincinnati

Top performers:

LB Ryan Shazier +3.1
QB Ben Roethlisberger +1.8
RG David DeCastro +1.7
CB William Gay +1.6
OLB James Harrison +1.2


https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/12/14/pro-pit-cin-grades-dalton-leaves-game-steelers-roll-over-bengals/

Snap counts for CBs on Sunday

• William Gay, 48 of 58

• Ross Cockrell, 46 of 58

• Brandon Boykin, 39 of 58

• Antwon Blake, 31 of 58


http://triblive.com/sports/steelers/9628213-74/roethlisberger-steelers-pass#ixzz3uPDQlxb2

PFF scored the top 5 Steelers at a total of 9.4 and the top 5 Bengals at 17.4... Geez... you'd think that the Bengals won...

Goes to show you that if your QB throws 2 INT's that end up as 14 points the other way.....he can single handedly ruin some good efforts by the other 40 guys on the field.
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PostSubject: Re: Brandon Boykin Believes He Could’ve Contributed Sooner This Season   Wed Dec 16, 2015 9:54 am

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Goes to show you that if your QB throws 2 INT's that end up as 14 points the other way.....he can single handedly ruin some good efforts by the other 40 guys on the field.

Or if you throw a pick inside the 10 when you have been moving the ball and look likely to tie the score

By the time McCarron threw the pick 6 to Willie Gay the Steelers were up 9

OTOH the great play due to coaches' film study and an athletic catch by Tuitt to intercept Dalton inside the 5 not only injured Dalton but stopped a drive to tie the game that would have reversed the momentum from the Steelers opening drive for a TD

Steelers pass defense lives and dies by whether it can force turnovers
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PostSubject: Re: Brandon Boykin Believes He Could’ve Contributed Sooner This Season   Wed Dec 16, 2015 10:06 am

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El-Gonzo Jackson wrote:


Goes to show you that if your QB throws 2 INT's that end up as 14 points the other way.....he can single handedly ruin some good efforts by the other 40 guys on the field.

Or if you throw a pick inside the 10 when you have been moving the ball and look likely to tie the score

By the time McCarron threw the pick 6 to Willie Gay the Steelers were up 9

OTOH the great play due to coaches' film study and an athletic catch by Tuitt to intercept Dalton inside the 5 not only injured Dalton but stopped a drive to tie the game that would have reversed the momentum from the Steelers opening drive for a TD

Steelers pass defense lives and dies by whether it can force turnovers

Agreed, the 3 INT by Bengals QB's accounted for 17-21 points against. Lots of other guys can be playing well, but turnovers can really cost.

Steelers pass defense lives and dies by whether Blake gets beat often enough that the Offense cant outscore the opponent. Hoping Golson is an upgrade next year and Jeremy Cash finds his way to the Steelers in the draft.
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PostSubject: Re: Brandon Boykin Believes He Could’ve Contributed Sooner This Season   Fri Jan 01, 2016 6:16 pm

Steelers cornerback Brandon Boykin may finally start on Sunday

Bryan DeArdo - Dec 31
Pittsburgh Newsletter

After a tumultuous season, the Steelers' cornerback may finally be getting his opportunity.

With Antwon Blake dealing with a back injury, Brandon Boykin, acquired this past offseason from Philadelphia, may start his first game for the Steelers this Sunday in Cleveland against the Browns.

Throughout the season, Pittsburgh fans have been clamoring for Boykin to play more, especially after the Steelers' secondary fell to 31st in the NFL against the pass following the Steelers' Week 12 loss at Seattle. After the game, the fans did get their wish, as Pittsburgh went to a three-man rotation at cornerback after the Steelers' loss to the Seahawks.

Boykin got even more playing time last week. Replacing an injured Blake, Boykin made eight tackles and a sack, as the Steelers' defense held the Ravens to just three points in the second half of last Sunday's loss.

For Boykin, Sunday's game could be a chance to show the Steelers what he can do as a starter after spending much of the season openly wondering why he had only been used sparingly throughout most of the year. Boykin could also earn his way onto the team's starting lineup for the playoffs, as long as the Steelers win and the Bills can win on Sunday, in what should be a wild finish to the 2015 season.

http://pit.247sports.com/Bolt/Steelers-cornerback-Brandon-Boykin-may-finally-start-on-Sunday-42415501

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