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PostSubject: Roger Goodell: NFL trying to understand drop in ratings   Wed Oct 19, 2016 5:24 pm

Roger Goodell: NFL trying to understand drop in ratings

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NFL commissioner Roger Goodell said Wednesday that the league does not think it has lost viewers despite a 10 percent drop in television ratings this season.

At the same time, however, he acknowledged that league officials are trying to understand what has caused the drop and how to address it.

Speaking after the league's fall meetings in Houston, Goodell said it is important not just to get viewers tuned in but also to "get them to stay tuned in" to game broadcasts.

"When you look at ratings you have to go deeper than that," Goodell said. "It's viewers, but also how long they're engaging for, and a lot of times, people will leave a game for whatever reason, whether it's to go to other programming or whether the game is not that competitive."

Goodell said neither he nor the league's broadcast partners believe player protests of the national anthem have played a role in the drop. But he did note a relative lack of competitive games in prime time and the contentious presidential election and debate schedule as partial explanations.

"There a lot of factors to be considered," he said. "We don't make excuses. We try to figure out what's changing."

Also at the meetings, Goodell heard what he called a "factual" presentation of the Oakland Raiders' interest in relocating to Las Vegas. Goodell, however, said "there is still a great deal of information that we need to gather with respect to the circumstances in Oakland and also the challenges," indicating that resolution of the issue shouldn't be expected quickly.

Nevada lawmakers recently approved $750 million in public money to be used toward a domed stadium that would open in 2020. Billionaire casino mogul Sheldon Adelson has pledged $650 million toward the project, but Goodell said NFL owners have not been briefed on the structure of that offer. The Raiders could apply for relocation as early as January 15, 2017.

There will be follow-up discussion "maybe as early as December but more likely later than that," Goodell said.

In other meeting news:

Goodell offered no apologies for the uptick in taunting and unsportsmanlike conduct penalties this season. "We do believe that our players are role models and others look at that at the youth level," he said, "so that's important for us. And it's part of being a professional. That's one element of it. We have taunting and it's a significant issue, and taunting fouls are up this year. It's probably a combination of making that a point of emphasis, and we look at that as sportsmanship. In most cases when somebody taunts somebody else, somebody reacts and it can escalate quickly. People may not like the rule. They may not like the line that's been drawn, but we believe it's part of being a professional league."

Goodell said owners spent much of the morning discussing the league's collective bargaining agreement, which has reached its halfway point and will expire in 2021. The deal has worked "incredibly well" for players and owners, Goodell said.

ESPN has reported that the league would like to extend the deal before its expiration.

As part of any CBA talks, Goodell suggested the league would like to address limitations in offseason and in-season practice time. "That undoubtedly will come up," he said.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/17834677/roger-goodell-nfl-trying-figure-ratings-drop

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PostSubject: Re: Roger Goodell: NFL trying to understand drop in ratings   Thu Oct 20, 2016 8:53 am

maybe it has to do with the fact the games you're shoowing nationally actually suck. And the games which are marked as "out of market" have more interest.

Here's an example. A last week ago, here in the Tampa market, towards the end of the game CBS switched to the New England Patriots***** vs. Cincinnati Bengals late in the 4th when the Patriots***** had the game well in command. However, the Redskins and Ravens were coming down to the wire.

Heaven forbid CBS show a NFC vs AFC game when there are two AFC teams playing. But in the interests of actuing captivating your audience, put on a game that's close, not one where one team could put in their 2nd and 3rd stringers and still be winning by 30.

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PostSubject: Re: Roger Goodell: NFL trying to understand drop in ratings   Thu Oct 20, 2016 9:23 am

If they want to see ratings jump back up, start embracing online LIVE streaming and pull Sunday Ticket from being a DirecTV exclusive.
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PostSubject: Re: Roger Goodell: NFL trying to understand drop in ratings   Thu Oct 20, 2016 12:18 pm

@steelax04 wrote:
If they want to see ratings jump back up, start embracing online LIVE streaming and pull Sunday Ticket from being a DirecTV exclusive.

but, but, but.... ... our money!

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PostSubject: Re: Roger Goodell: NFL trying to understand drop in ratings   Thu Oct 20, 2016 8:35 pm

Product is getting to the point of being unwatchable. Penalty, reviews and kickoffs that go into the stands are slowly eroding the game. Players are stupid. All they care about is money. I don't really care too much to depend on them to to anything. Owners are making a lot of money now and if they think this will continue, then they are no different than the real estate crowd who thought the boom would never end until 2008 came.

Roger Goodell will be the seed that starts the decline. He may make money now, but eventually it will top off and start to dwindle.
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PostSubject: Re: Roger Goodell: NFL trying to understand drop in ratings   Thu Oct 20, 2016 8:55 pm

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@steelax04 wrote:
If they want to see ratings jump back up, start embracing online LIVE streaming and pull Sunday Ticket from being a DirecTV exclusive.

but, but, but.... ... our money!

It is a business, not a charity

NFL is concerned about ratings only because lower ratings = lower future sales of TV rights

NFL will open up Sunday Ticket from DirecTV exclusivity when it can get more $$ than it does from the $1.5 billion per year DirecTV pays

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PostSubject: Re: Roger Goodell: NFL trying to understand drop in ratings   Fri Oct 21, 2016 6:37 am

Ratings in the NFL, while still stronger than any other challenger on the television landscape, continue to decline, and a new survey by Yahoo Sports and YouGov discerns several reasons why.



http://sports.yahoo.com/news/fans-watching-fewer-nfl-games-cite-protests-as-primary-reason-172059483.html

FWIW I am watching less and rarely placing bets this season.  It has nothing to do with Kaepernick - I simply have little interest in games not involving the Steelers at the moment and regard the quality of the games, including but not limited to the random acts of bad officiating, to have declined drastically. The Thursday night games are a particularly egregious money grab that showcases a crappy product.
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PostSubject: Re: Roger Goodell: NFL trying to understand drop in ratings   Fri Oct 21, 2016 8:28 am

I'm with you Dan. I'm not watching because outside the Steelers games, there aren't many that are interesting to me.

Usually they involve one of the following teams losing:
Patriots*****
Browns
Bengals
Ravens
Cowboys

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PostSubject: Re: Roger Goodell: NFL trying to understand drop in ratings   Sun Oct 23, 2016 12:54 am

i'm watching more college football now if not for the Steelers I wouldn't watch much pro football.

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PostSubject: Re: Roger Goodell: NFL trying to understand drop in ratings   Sun Oct 23, 2016 12:19 pm

Maybe do not start the London game at 9:30 eastern time when a West Coast team is playing?

That is a 6:30 a.m. kickoff for Rams fans in LA - just another fuck you from the NFL to its customers if there is  buck to be made

Rumor is the NFL may sell the London games with 9:30 a.m. ET kickoffs as a package to generate some more $$ - it is all about the Benjamins

Rams 6:30 AM local kickoff is a middle finger to fans and another example of NFL prioritizing money over them

[T]he real play is possibly carving out and selling ANOTHER package of games to whatever network is desperate enough to bid on it. Just how much money could this bring in?

Our closest comparison is the recent Thursday Night Football deals that NBC and CBS did with the NFL, in which they get to broadcast (kind of) five games each. I kid “kind of” because the games also air on NFL Network, so the audience is split between two networks and then the NFL also gave Twitter streaming rights.

For those packages, NBC and CBS paid $45 million a game and looking at ratings data, the London games actually often get higher ratings than the TNF games. So if the NFL down the line were to have a five-game AM London package (that’s only two more games than now), you could be looking at $250 million to 300 million in revenue and perhaps even more, considering how attractive such a package would be.

The current television partners have a love-hate relationship with the London AM game, as CBS and Fox do air some of them, although NFL Network will televise one this year. However, these early games KILL pregame show ratings.


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PostSubject: Re: Roger Goodell: NFL trying to understand drop in ratings   Sun Oct 23, 2016 12:26 pm

The No Fun League is in full effect with Roger Hitler in command.  It's becoming a watered down product and people are getting sick of it.  Remember when you wouldn't DREAM of missing a Monday Night Football game?  Now unless the Steelers are playing, it's almost unwatchable.

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PostSubject: Re: Roger Goodell: NFL trying to understand drop in ratings   Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:46 am

I give you evidence of last night's game ending in a 6-6 tie! There should be no wonder why your ratings are dropping fast.

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PostSubject: Re: Roger Goodell: NFL trying to understand drop in ratings   Mon Nov 07, 2016 9:46 am

I don't know about you all, but outside of the Steelers, I didn't catch a single game yesterday. I usually watch the 4:30 and Sunday night offerings.
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PostSubject: Re: Roger Goodell: NFL trying to understand drop in ratings   Mon Nov 07, 2016 5:03 pm

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I don't know about you all, but outside of the Steelers, I didn't catch a single game yesterday. I usually watch the 4:30 and Sunday night offerings.

Other than the Steelers (which I turned off at 21 - 0) I watched the last quarter of Packers-Colts, which was entertaining - nothing else

I have watched maybe 2 quarters of the Thursday night games this year  

Steelers-Ravens was unwatchable unless you follow one of the teams

I have been watching the NFL since the late 60s (Ice Bowl and Super Bowl III)- if I am not watching the NFL has a problem
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PostSubject: Re: Roger Goodell: NFL trying to understand drop in ratings   Mon Nov 07, 2016 11:21 pm

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Other than the Steelers (which I turned off at 21 - 0)

Wow. Some fan.

Leave Roger Goodell alone. The Rooney's were among his chief supporters for his getting the job.

They obviously knew he was the right man for the position.
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PostSubject: Re: Roger Goodell: NFL trying to understand drop in ratings   Tue Nov 08, 2016 5:48 am

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Other than the Steelers (which I turned off at 21 - 0)

Wow.  Some fan.  

Leave Roger Goodell alone.  The Rooney's were among his chief supporters for his getting the job.  

They obviously knew he was the right man for the position.    


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PostSubject: Re: Roger Goodell: NFL trying to understand drop in ratings   Tue Nov 08, 2016 7:46 am

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PostSubject: Re: Roger Goodell: NFL trying to understand drop in ratings   Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:21 am

As bad as this team has played at times during the Kordell Era? I've never turned a game off. EVER!

So don't judge me as a fan.

Judge yourself.
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PostSubject: Re: Roger Goodell: NFL trying to understand drop in ratings   Tue Nov 08, 2016 12:21 pm

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As bad as this team has played at times during the Kordell Era?  I've never turned a game off.  EVER!

So don't judge me as a fan.  

Judge yourself.    

Some people don't find self torture to be fun. In the grand scheme of things, football is entertainment, nothing more. Nothing wrong with turning it off once it stops being entertaining
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PostSubject: Re: Roger Goodell: NFL trying to understand drop in ratings   Tue Nov 08, 2016 12:25 pm

Another thing which may be impacting the ratings - poor officiating.

Your honor I give you Exhibit A: Sherman hitting the Bills kicker last night at the end of the first half and only a 5 yard off sides penalty. I also present Exhibit B: One game a defender makes slight contact with a WR on the shoulder and gets a PI call. In a game on the same weekend at the same time - a defender grabs a WRs hand and pulls it away from the ball prior to it's arrival and no flag.

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PostSubject: Re: Roger Goodell: NFL trying to understand drop in ratings   Tue Nov 08, 2016 1:12 pm

@Atlanta Dan wrote:
@jak341 wrote:
I don't know about you all, but outside of the Steelers, I didn't catch a single game yesterday. I usually watch the 4:30 and Sunday night offerings.

Other than the Steelers (which I turned off at 21 - 0) I watched the last quarter of Packers-Colts, which was entertaining - nothing else

I have watched maybe 2 quarters of the Thursday night games this year  

Steelers-Ravens was unwatchable unless you follow one of the teams

I have been watching the NFL since the late 60s (Ice Bowl and Super Bowl III)- if I am not watching the NFL has a problem

I'm the same as you, Dan. I used to watch every second of every game on tv. Albeit when I was younger, there weren't nearly as many televised games. Now all I watch is the steelers, and I'll catch bits and pieces of other games. Rarely do I watch an entire game if the steelers aren't playing.

I also used to watch the pre- and post-game shows. And then ESPN first thing in the morning. Basically, I took in as much as I could get. Now I'll put on nfl network to get scores and a few highlights... That's pretty much it.

My love for the steelers is still as strong as ever, but I couldn't care less about the rest of the league. I don't think there's just one reason. Part of it is because as I got older, got married and had kids, my priorities changed. Part of it is because of the advances in technology, there are far more entertainment choices than there used to be. And I'm sure part of it is because the game has changed. But I think, for me at least, the changes in the game is less of a factor than the others.

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PostSubject: Re: Roger Goodell: NFL trying to understand drop in ratings   Tue Nov 08, 2016 1:21 pm

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@MrFootball wrote:
As bad as this team has played at times during the Kordell Era?  I've never turned a game off.  EVER!

So don't judge me as a fan.  

Judge yourself.    

Some people don't find self torture to be fun. In the grand scheme of things, football is entertainment, nothing more. Nothing wrong with turning it off once it stops being entertaining

Watch every second during a win, but like a rat leaving a sinking ship when they are losing?

Odd.


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PostSubject: Re: Roger Goodell: NFL trying to understand drop in ratings   Tue Nov 08, 2016 4:13 pm

@MrFootball wrote:
@Fire Arians wrote:
@MrFootball wrote:
As bad as this team has played at times during the Kordell Era?  I've never turned a game off.  EVER!

So don't judge me as a fan.  

Judge yourself.    

Some people don't find self torture to be fun. In the grand scheme of things, football is entertainment, nothing more. Nothing wrong with turning it off once it stops being entertaining

Watch every second during a win, but like a rat leaving a sinking ship when they are losing?  

Odd.



I turned off blowout wins this season too and did not see a minute of the Dolphins and Jets games since I traveled overseas for 2 weeks this fall instead

I do not regard watching the Steelers as a homework assignment I need to complete every week but if that works for you go for it
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PostSubject: Re: Roger Goodell: NFL trying to understand drop in ratings   Tue Nov 08, 2016 7:28 pm

@MrFootball wrote:
@Fire Arians wrote:
@MrFootball wrote:
As bad as this team has played at times during the Kordell Era?  I've never turned a game off.  EVER!

So don't judge me as a fan.  

Judge yourself.    

Some people don't find self torture to be fun. In the grand scheme of things, football is entertainment, nothing more. Nothing wrong with turning it off once it stops being entertaining

Watch every second during a win, but like a rat leaving a sinking ship when they are losing?  

Odd.


That's comparing hitting your dick with a hammer and having sex with a supermodel. One is highly entertaining while the other is not.

Lol, always cracks me up when people think being a loyal fan means being forced to watch every minute as if they're members of the team. News flash, the team doesn't give a shit about you and looks at us as a source of income. So I look at them as merely there for my entertainment. Love the Steelers but let's be real, it's a fucking game.
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PostSubject: Re: Roger Goodell: NFL trying to understand drop in ratings   Tue Nov 08, 2016 7:32 pm

@Fire Arians wrote:
@MrFootball wrote:
@Fire Arians wrote:
@MrFootball wrote:
As bad as this team has played at times during the Kordell Era?  I've never turned a game off.  EVER!

So don't judge me as a fan.  

Judge yourself.    

Some people don't find self torture to be fun. In the grand scheme of things, football is entertainment, nothing more. Nothing wrong with turning it off once it stops being entertaining

Watch every second during a win, but like a rat leaving a sinking ship when they are losing?  

Odd.


That's comparing hitting your dick with a hammer and having sex with a supermodel. One is highly entertaining while the other is not.

Lol, always cracks me up when people think being a loyal fan means being forced to watch every minute as if they're members of the team..

When that same fan labels others they don't know as a troll? Either practice what your preach or STFU.



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