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PostSubject: Round 5, Utah CB Brian Allen is now a Steeler   Sat Apr 29, 2017 3:39 pm

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Steelers fifth-round pick, Utah cornerback Brian Allen, is the classic raw athlete flier - 6-foot-3 with 34-inch arms and a 4.48 40, but the former wide receiver has struggled with the transition of tackling and mastering the nuances of the cornerback position. Steelers have a lot of sub-6-foot corners, so taking a chance on a big one this late in the draft won't hurt.

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PostSubject: Re: Round 5, Utah CB Brian Allen is now a Steeler   Sat Apr 29, 2017 6:57 pm

This will how us how good a coach Lake is...Please develop this kid
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PostSubject: Re: Round 5, Utah CB Brian Allen is now a Steeler   Sat Apr 29, 2017 7:10 pm

Yep.....The CB play in preseason will definitely be my number 1 thing I want to watch....

Got to develop some dbs who can play man and make plays on the ball whiles its in the air.

That's the league today.

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PostSubject: Re: Round 5, Utah CB Brian Allen is now a Steeler   Sat Apr 29, 2017 8:30 pm

Candidate for the practice squad or else the #6 CB if they keep 6.
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PostSubject: Re: Round 5, Utah CB Brian Allen is now a Steeler   Sun Apr 30, 2017 2:44 pm

OK, I watched some game tape on the kid and rewatched his NFL Combine workout. Plays high, but he is a 6'3" converted WR with long arms and he used them at the LOS to jam. Has good hands and shows long speed with long strides. Shows some recognition to come off his deep zone and jump the underneath out routes from the slot. Overall the game tape shows a big CB that is raw and looks a little awkward at times, but if is around the ball his size gets hands on the ball.

The Combine workout was difficult as the TV coverage often was at commercial or isolation on another prospect when his drills came up, but he ran 4.48 officially, but one has him timed at 4.43. His hip turn was pretty good considering how tall and long legged he is. His W-drill was very impressive to me, as he backpedaled smoothly, then stuck a back foot and quickly broke forward, then transitioned to backpedal. He high points the ball and catches well, as he is a former WR and the hands showed in the gauntlet drill. Really good athlete for being such a tall CB!

Honestly, I hope he makes the 53, despite being a developmental guy that I think will not contribute this year, I think by 2018 he can make his way to depth as a boundary CB, when William Gay is gone and hopefully Sutton and Golson are the slot CB's. Unless he really looks lost in the preseason, somebody will poach him off the practice squad.
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PostSubject: Re: Round 5, Utah CB Brian Allen is now a Steeler   Sun Apr 30, 2017 4:07 pm

Dave Te Thomas loved this guy. Called him the next Ike Taylor.
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PostSubject: Re: Round 5, Utah CB Brian Allen is now a Steeler   Sun Apr 30, 2017 5:02 pm

Look up what Dave T Thomas said about Shamarko Thomas and Jarvis jones. And I am willing to bet Dave Bryan jumped on the bandwagon as soon as he heard that.
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PostSubject: Re: Round 5, Utah CB Brian Allen is now a Steeler   Mon May 01, 2017 8:47 am

@BlackAndGold wrote:
Dave Te Thomas loved this guy. Called him the next Ike Taylor.

So he can't catch? Is that why he's a converted WR?

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PostSubject: Re: Round 5, Utah CB Brian Allen is now a Steeler   Mon May 01, 2017 9:48 am

@BlackAndGold wrote:
Dave Te Thomas loved this guy. Called him the next Ike Taylor.

AHHHHHHHHH

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PostSubject: Re: Round 5, Utah CB Brian Allen is now a Steeler   Tue May 02, 2017 7:50 am

@El-Gonzo Jackson wrote:
OK, I watched some game tape on the kid and rewatched his NFL Combine workout.  Plays high, but he is a 6'3" converted WR with long arms and he used them at the LOS to jam.  Has good hands and shows long speed with long strides.  Shows some recognition to come off his deep zone and jump the underneath out routes from the slot.  Overall the game tape shows a big CB that is raw and looks a little awkward at times, but if is around the ball his size gets hands on the ball.

The Combine workout was difficult as the TV coverage often was at commercial or isolation on another prospect when his drills came up, but he ran 4.48 officially, but one has him timed at 4.43.  His hip turn was pretty good considering how tall and long legged he is.  His W-drill was very impressive to me, as he backpedaled smoothly, then stuck a back foot and quickly broke forward, then transitioned to backpedal.  He high points the ball and catches well, as he is a former WR and the hands showed in the gauntlet drill.  Really good athlete for being such a tall CB!

Honestly, I hope he makes the 53, despite being a developmental guy that I think will not contribute this year, I think by 2018 he can make his way to depth as a boundary CB, when William Gay is gone and hopefully Sutton and Golson are the slot CB's.  Unless he really looks lost in the preseason, somebody will poach him off the practice squad.

Damn Gonzo, I have always wondered if you're secretly an NFL Scout, or assistant coach moonlighting as a fan on the forums. The stuff you post is often better and more informative than the crap from the sports pundits and so-called analysts.

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PostSubject: Re: Round 5, Utah CB Brian Allen is now a Steeler   Wed May 03, 2017 1:07 am

@IowaSteeler927 wrote:
@El-Gonzo Jackson wrote:
OK, I watched some game tape on the kid and rewatched his NFL Combine workout.  Plays high, but he is a 6'3" converted WR with long arms and he used them at the LOS to jam.  Has good hands and shows long speed with long strides.  Shows some recognition to come off his deep zone and jump the underneath out routes from the slot.  Overall the game tape shows a big CB that is raw and looks a little awkward at times, but if is around the ball his size gets hands on the ball.

The Combine workout was difficult as the TV coverage often was at commercial or isolation on another prospect when his drills came up, but he ran 4.48 officially, but one has him timed at 4.43.  His hip turn was pretty good considering how tall and long legged he is.  His W-drill was very impressive to me, as he backpedaled smoothly, then stuck a back foot and quickly broke forward, then transitioned to backpedal.  He high points the ball and catches well, as he is a former WR and the hands showed in the gauntlet drill.  Really good athlete for being such a tall CB!

Honestly, I hope he makes the 53, despite being a developmental guy that I think will not contribute this year, I think by 2018 he can make his way to depth as a boundary CB, when William Gay is gone and hopefully Sutton and Golson are the slot CB's.  Unless he really looks lost in the preseason, somebody will poach him off the practice squad.

Damn Gonzo, I have always wondered if you're secretly an NFL Scout, or assistant coach moonlighting as a fan on the forums. The stuff you post is often better and more informative than the crap from the sports pundits and so-called analysts.

I appreciate the comments, thanks. Sadly, I am just a degenerate football fan, Steelers junkie and guy that has coached a bit and is a technique junkie. Maybe I should find a way to see if I can make a few pesos doing this?

Things stand out to me and I've missed some calls, but also been right on a few guys like Tyson Jackson, Al Woods, Bruce Davis, Carl Nicks, etc. As much as I don't like really tall and lanky CB's, this kid's movement skills are better than Artie Burns was last year at the combine. Burns didn't turn his hips or change directions as well as Allen and that is probably why Burns turns his hips and plays in "bail technique" a lot.

Sutton looks like a smooth athlete too and moves like a DB. Add the fact that he played 4 years at Tenn and you have experience that the converted WR does not. Steelers secondary will be better this season, the D Line depth is better with Alualu, so just up to the LB group to keep pace and get better in the pass rush.
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PostSubject: Re: Round 5, Utah CB Brian Allen is now a Steeler   Wed May 03, 2017 4:43 am

@El-Gonzo Jackson wrote:
@IowaSteeler927 wrote:
@El-Gonzo Jackson wrote:
OK, I watched some game tape on the kid and rewatched his NFL Combine workout.  Plays high, but he is a 6'3" converted WR with long arms and he used them at the LOS to jam.  Has good hands and shows long speed with long strides.  Shows some recognition to come off his deep zone and jump the underneath out routes from the slot.  Overall the game tape shows a big CB that is raw and looks a little awkward at times, but if is around the ball his size gets hands on the ball.

The Combine workout was difficult as the TV coverage often was at commercial or isolation on another prospect when his drills came up, but he ran 4.48 officially, but one has him timed at 4.43.  His hip turn was pretty good considering how tall and long legged he is.  His W-drill was very impressive to me, as he backpedaled smoothly, then stuck a back foot and quickly broke forward, then transitioned to backpedal.  He high points the ball and catches well, as he is a former WR and the hands showed in the gauntlet drill.  Really good athlete for being such a tall CB!

Honestly, I hope he makes the 53, despite being a developmental guy that I think will not contribute this year, I think by 2018 he can make his way to depth as a boundary CB, when William Gay is gone and hopefully Sutton and Golson are the slot CB's.  Unless he really looks lost in the preseason, somebody will poach him off the practice squad.

Damn Gonzo, I have always wondered if you're secretly an NFL Scout, or assistant coach moonlighting as a fan on the forums. The stuff you post is often better and more informative than the crap from the sports pundits and so-called analysts.

I appreciate the comments, thanks.  Sadly, I am just a degenerate football fan, Steelers junkie and guy that has coached a bit and is a technique junkie.  Maybe I should find a way to see if I can make a few pesos doing this?

Things stand out to me and I've missed some calls, but also been right on a few guys like Tyson Jackson, Al Woods, Bruce Davis, Carl Nicks, etc.  As much as I don't like really tall and lanky CB's, this kid's movement skills are better than Artie Burns was last year at the combine.  Burns didn't turn his hips or change directions as well as Allen and that is probably why Burns turns his hips and plays in "bail technique" a lot.  

Sutton looks like a smooth athlete too and moves like a DB.  Add the fact that he played 4 years at Tenn and you have experience that the converted WR does not.  Steelers secondary will be better this season, the D Line depth is better with Alualu, so just up to the LB group to keep pace and get better in the pass rush.

You know I completely forgot about Tyson Alualu, good call!

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