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Denver Broncos linebacker Von Miller is one of the truly elite pass rushers in the NFL. He, along with Chuck Smith Training Systems put on their Pass Rush Summit on Thursday. It’s an opportunity for many of the young pass rushers to come together and learn from the best. And thankfully, Pittsburgh Steelers linebacker Bud Dupree was part of it.

It was great seeing Miller working with Dupree. For all of Dupree’s athleticism, he’s never been able to put together the football skills that would allow him to harness it on the field.

https://steelerswire.usatoday.com/2018/06/29/bud-dupree-getting-tips-from-the-best-at-von-millers-pass-rush-summit/

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I thought Porter was supposed to help him with that stuff.
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I thought Porter was supposed to help him with that stuff.

He is supposed to. That's why I think he should be replaced.
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I thought Porter was supposed to help him with that stuff.

He is supposed to. That's why I think he should be replaced.

Porter is coaching a defensive that has been in place for some time teaching him more as a 3-4 OLBer to drop in zone coverage which was his weakness coming out of college.

imo Dupree will be more of a DE / OLB pass rusher with a SS playing OLBer over top of him.

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@effyou515 wrote:
@solardave wrote:
@Steeler-in-west wrote:
I thought Porter was supposed to help him with that stuff.

He is supposed to. That's why I think he should be replaced.

Porter is coaching a defensive that has been in place for some time teaching him more as a 3-4 OLBer to drop in zone coverage which was his weakness coming out of college.

imo Dupree will be more of a DE / OLB pass rusher with a SS playing OLBer over top of him.

You're probably right but Porter is still in the way if you ask me. He hasn't gone to bat for Dupree so far and we all know Porter is outspoken so what's his deal?
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@solardave wrote:
@effyou515 wrote:
@solardave wrote:
@Steeler-in-west wrote:
I thought Porter was supposed to help him with that stuff.

He is supposed to. That's why I think he should be replaced.

Porter is coaching a defensive that has been in place for some time teaching him more as a 3-4 OLBer to drop in zone coverage which was his weakness coming out of college.

imo Dupree will be more of a DE / OLB pass rusher with a SS playing OLBer over top of him.

You're probably right but Porter is still in the way if you ask me. He hasn't gone to bat for Dupree so far and we all know Porter is outspoken so what's his deal?

would of liked Kevin Greene over Porter.

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@effyou515 wrote:
@solardave wrote:
@effyou515 wrote:
@solardave wrote:
@Steeler-in-west wrote:
I thought Porter was supposed to help him with that stuff.

He is supposed to. That's why I think he should be replaced.

Porter is coaching a defensive that has been in place for some time teaching him more as a 3-4 OLBer to drop in zone coverage which was his weakness coming out of college.

imo Dupree will be more of a DE / OLB pass rusher with a SS playing OLBer over top of him.

You're probably right but Porter is still in the way if you ask me. He hasn't gone to bat for Dupree so far and we all know Porter is outspoken so what's his deal?

would of liked Kevin Greene over Porter.

Him or Greg Loyd would have been better.
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@solardave wrote:
@effyou515 wrote:
@solardave wrote:
@effyou515 wrote:
@solardave wrote:
@Steeler-in-west wrote:
I thought Porter was supposed to help him with that stuff.

He is supposed to. That's why I think he should be replaced.

Porter is coaching a defensive that has been in place for some time teaching him more as a 3-4 OLBer to drop in zone coverage which was his weakness coming out of college.

imo Dupree will be more of a DE / OLB pass rusher with a SS playing OLBer over top of him.

You're probably right but Porter is still in the way if you ask me. He hasn't gone to bat for Dupree so far and we all know Porter is outspoken so what's his deal?

would of liked Kevin Greene over Porter.

Him  or Greg Loyd would have been better.

Definitely. I'd probably take Greene though, just based on his experience as a coach.

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Despite taking OLB’s high in the draft, I’ve yet to see one of those, or any, young linebacker really grow and thrive under Porter’s coaching.

Still waiting.
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i really really hope Dupree proves me wrong this year. $9.2 million is an awful lot of money to give a guy who ain't done shit in 3 years. i don't think anyone predicted they would pick up his fourth year option. tomlin and company could be that unpredictable with their game plans, they might one day beat the Patriots*. dupree does have the physical skill set to be a good OLB, but as everyone points out, he lacks technique. i would add another trait he lacks, which is nastiness. he simply doesn't have that nasty streak in him that greg llyod or deebo had. you can even see a big difference in attitude between watt and dupree during interviews. dupree is usually all smiles while watt stays stone faced and business like.
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@Steeler-in-west wrote:
Despite taking OLB’s high in the draft, I’ve yet to see one of those, or any, young linebacker really grow and thrive under Porter’s coaching.

Still waiting.

agreed. when your pupil has to look to another peer for knowledge, then you must be a worthless teacher. i mean has porter not shown and broken down films of successful OLBs as part of film study on technique with his group ?
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@solardave wrote:
@effyou515 wrote:
@solardave wrote:
@effyou515 wrote:
@solardave wrote:
@Steeler-in-west wrote:
I thought Porter was supposed to help him with that stuff.

He is supposed to. That's why I think he should be replaced.

Porter is coaching a defensive that has been in place for some time teaching him more as a 3-4 OLBer to drop in zone coverage which was his weakness coming out of college.

imo Dupree will be more of a DE / OLB pass rusher with a SS playing OLBer over top of him.

You're probably right but Porter is still in the way if you ask me. He hasn't gone to bat for Dupree so far and we all know Porter is outspoken so what's his deal?

would of liked Kevin Greene over Porter.

Him  or Greg Loyd would have been better.

and greg llyod would shove his glock in their mouth when they make a mistake ... Bud Dupree getting tips from the best at Von Miller's Pass Rush Summit 3562723908

me personally, i tend to avoid people who sticks a gun in their childs mouth. therefor i would never hire them...but thats just me.. Bud Dupree getting tips from the best at Von Miller's Pass Rush Summit 2087824411
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@Master_Of_Puppets wrote:
@Steeler-in-west wrote:
Despite taking OLB’s high in the draft, I’ve yet to see one of those, or any, young linebacker really grow and thrive under Porter’s coaching.

Still waiting.

agreed. when your pupil has to look to another peer for knowledge, then you must be a worthless teacher. i mean has porter not shown and broken down films of successful OLBs as part of film study on technique with his group ?

Sure doesn't look like it. The other thing is if their is a particular skill that a LBer excels at you would think he should work with him to maximize potential.
My guess is porter doesn't watch much game film. Dupree has the ability to play well if not great in this defense if he had the proper LBer coach. I just don't think Porter is it.
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@Master_Of_Puppets wrote:
@solardave wrote:
@effyou515 wrote:
@solardave wrote:
@effyou515 wrote:
@solardave wrote:
@Steeler-in-west wrote:
I thought Porter was supposed to help him with that stuff.

He is supposed to. That's why I think he should be replaced.

Porter is coaching a defensive that has been in place for some time teaching him more as a 3-4 OLBer to drop in zone coverage which was his weakness coming out of college.

imo Dupree will be more of a DE / OLB pass rusher with a SS playing OLBer over top of him.

You're probably right but Porter is still in the way if you ask me. He hasn't gone to bat for Dupree so far and we all know Porter is outspoken so what's his deal?

would of liked Kevin Greene over Porter.

Him  or Greg Loyd would have been better.

and greg llyod would shove his glock in their mouth when they make a mistake ... Bud Dupree getting tips from the best at Von Miller's Pass Rush Summit 3562723908

me personally, i tend to avoid people who sticks a gun in their childs mouth. therefor i would never hire them...but thats just me.. Bud Dupree getting tips from the best at Von Miller's Pass Rush Summit 2087824411

I question the validity of those claims. It seems like his ex-wife really has it out for him, and she may have very well conditioned her son to see his Father as a villain of sorts. Every story has two sides. The two trials that took place over that alleged incident ended up in hung juries.

There was however the incident in 2002 where he allegedly pointed a gun at his ex-wife's head and he plead no contest to simple battery for that...

Beyond that though there really hasn't been anything negative out there about the guy so who knows. His wife could be a crazy witch, he could be abusive, or it could be a combination of both. Either way it does appear they had a very dysfunctional family at the very least.

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I think everyone is reading a little too much into the summit and Bud's participation in it. Him being there is positive and not a negative reflection on anyone. Here's another story ...

Von Miller to bring some of the NFL's best pass rushers to Branson

Denver Broncos outside linebacker Von Miller will bring his second Pass Rush Summit to Big Cedar Lodge in Branson.

The Super Bowl 50 MVP told reporters Tuesday that he's bringing a number of the NFL's best pass rushers to southwest Missouri.

The Denver Post reported attendees during the inaugural event included Atlanta Falcons pass rusher Vic Beasley, Oakland Raiders linebacker Khalil Mack and Jacksonville Jaguars defensive end Malik Jackson among others.

https://www.news-leader.com/story/sports/nfl/2018/05/29/denver-bronco-star-von-miller-hosting-pass-rush-summit-big-cedar-lodge/652900002/

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Maybe he should of invited Porter. Bud Dupree getting tips from the best at Von Miller's Pass Rush Summit 1797695198
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Maybe he should of invited Porter. Bud Dupree getting tips from the best at Von Miller's Pass Rush Summit 1797695198

Only as an example of how not to behave off the field.

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Maybe he should of invited Porter. Bud Dupree getting tips from the best at Von Miller's Pass Rush Summit 1797695198

Only as an example of how not to behave off the field.

Or during the course of a playoff game unless you can get away with it. Bud Dupree getting tips from the best at Von Miller's Pass Rush Summit 2981382511
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I think everyone is reading a little too much into the summit and Bud's participation in it. Him being there is positive and not a negative reflection on anyone. Here's another story ...


au contraire mon frere Bud Dupree getting tips from the best at Von Miller's Pass Rush Summit 2988561446 ... do we not give credit to Munchak for transforming the oline from a sorry lot of under achievers into one of the best units in the NFL ? i mean he turned a walk on left tackle into a pro bowler in what ? 3 years ?

now look at what sleazy peazy has done with 2 first round picks and a second ...2 busts and a third looking for coaching help else where. porter should have been shown the door with lake.
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A singular statistic which demonstrates Bud Dupree’s struggles with the Steelers

The Pittsburgh Steelers' first-round pick has struggled, to say the least


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Drafted with the expectation that he would become the next great Steelers outside linebacker, Bud Dupree has failed to live up to his draft billing so far. From 354 pass-rushing snaps in the 2017 regular season, he produced just 40 total pressures, and he has just 83 total pressures since he entered the league in 2015.

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@Master_Of_Puppets wrote:
@Wallace108 wrote:
I think everyone is reading a little too much into the summit and Bud's participation in it. Him being there is positive and not a negative reflection on anyone. Here's another story ...


au contraire mon frere  Bud Dupree getting tips from the best at Von Miller's Pass Rush Summit 2988561446  ... do we not give credit to Munchak for transforming the oline from a sorry lot of under achievers into one of the best units in the NFL ? i mean he turned a walk on left tackle into a pro bowler in what ? 3 years ?

now look at what sleazy peazy has done with 2 first round picks and a second ...2 busts and a third looking for coaching help else where. porter should have been shown the door with lake.  

Eventually I'm going to say something you agree with. Bud Dupree getting tips from the best at Von Miller's Pass Rush Summit 3798349058

I wasn't trying to defend Porter or Bud's contributions. I've been disappointed in both of them. My point was just that Bud being invited to Miller's summit was a positive for his development, not a negative reflection on him or Porter. Sure, they both have negatives, but Bud attending the summit isn't one of them, especially when you look at the others who attended it.

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i say,,, get in Dupree's face and with my best Bill Cowher imitation and say rush the quarterback just rush the quarterback. Bud Dupree getting tips from the best at Von Miller's Pass Rush Summit 1797695198

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@Master_Of_Puppets wrote:
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I think everyone is reading a little too much into the summit and Bud's participation in it. Him being there is positive and not a negative reflection on anyone. Here's another story ...


au contraire mon frere  Bud Dupree getting tips from the best at Von Miller's Pass Rush Summit 2988561446  ... do we not give credit to Munchak for transforming the oline from a sorry lot of under achievers into one of the best units in the NFL ? i mean he turned a walk on left tackle into a pro bowler in what ? 3 years ?

now look at what sleazy peazy has done with 2 first round picks and a second ...2 busts and a third looking for coaching help else where. porter should have been shown the door with lake.  

Eventually I'm going to say something you agree with. Bud Dupree getting tips from the best at Von Miller's Pass Rush Summit 3798349058

I wasn't trying to defend Porter or Bud's contributions. I've been disappointed in both of them. My point was just that Bud being invited to Miller's summit was a positive for his development, not a negative reflection on him or Porter. Sure, they both have negatives, but Bud attending the summit isn't one of them, especially when you look at the others who attended it.
Bud Dupree getting tips from the best at Von Miller's Pass Rush Summit 1797695198 we do agree on something. i think it's a positive that bud is attending the camp to get the proper coaching he isn't getting from porter. if i were his coach or a coach in general, i would have already had a shit ton of film on the leagues best at their position to show my guys how it's done. in other words , bud would have already been studying von miller frame by frame and trying to emulate his moves on the field.
i mean i could be wrong and porter is doing those things and maybe bud just isn't coachable. wouldn't be the first time a guy who had all the physical tools just couldn't make them work in his favor.
personally i would have liked to see them try him at inside Lb (lawrence timmons) before they give him the boot.
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Is it Poters Coaching or is it Dupree just not living up to his potential? Seems Watt did pretty well under Porters tutelage and Watt has even said he has progressed and learned a lot under Porter. Dupree takes way to wide of an angle we all see it we all know it he ends up 10 yards behind a play consistently. You mean to tell me Porter has not addressed that with him on multiple occasions?

So far Dupree has been hit and miss he pops up for a great play occasionally then disappears for 2 or 3 games when he has been on the field. I expected a hell of a lot more from him last year and this year.
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