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PostSubject: Ben Roethlisberger Out For Season   Ben Roethlisberger Out For Season EmptyMon Sep 16, 2019 11:58 am

Breaking news from my ESPN app: Ben is out for the season with elbow surgery.


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PostSubject: Re: Ben Roethlisberger Out For Season   Ben Roethlisberger Out For Season EmptyMon Sep 16, 2019 12:08 pm

This is insane. Could very well be the end of an era. If Mason was ever gonna make a case to be the guy, now is his time.

Can't believe this could be it.

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PostSubject: Re: Ben Roethlisberger Out For Season   Ben Roethlisberger Out For Season EmptyMon Sep 16, 2019 12:12 pm

There were some interesting observations yesterday about Ben's injury.

Normally he goes over to the coaching staff, grabs a headset, and helps out. This time, he literally was sitting alone at the end of the bench by himself.

An injury possibility that few are mentioning: Tommy John. If so, it's 12 to 18 months recovering. If that is a possibility, it would make sense that Ben knew what was up.


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PostSubject: Re: Ben Roethlisberger Out For Season   Ben Roethlisberger Out For Season EmptyMon Sep 16, 2019 12:16 pm

This sucks ass.
I hope this isn't a trip back to the '80s.

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PostSubject: Re: Ben Roethlisberger Out For Season   Ben Roethlisberger Out For Season EmptyMon Sep 16, 2019 12:28 pm

Idk what this means but I'm excited to see Rudolph play. I think he can provide a spark but time will tell. Sucks to lose Ben I sure hope this isnt the end for him
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PostSubject: Re: Ben Roethlisberger Out For Season   Ben Roethlisberger Out For Season EmptyMon Sep 16, 2019 12:32 pm

I have always liked Mason's mechanics and instincts. I watched him this preseason and was impressed. It's time for a new era to begin in Pittsburgh! Let's hope he surprises everyone just like Ben did his rookie season.

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PostSubject: Re: Ben Roethlisberger Out For Season   Ben Roethlisberger Out For Season EmptyMon Sep 16, 2019 12:47 pm

Well, this will definitely be an interesting rest of the season. Does Devlin get moved to the roster or do the Steelers go out and find a new backup?

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PostSubject: Re: Ben Roethlisberger Out For Season   Ben Roethlisberger Out For Season EmptyMon Sep 16, 2019 1:00 pm

@Mach1 wrote:
I hope this isn't a trip back to the '80s.

Truck said the exact same thing to me last night. My response ... "Maybe we've been in the 80s for a few years but just didn't realize it."

I guess I'll bring up a point I used to make a number of years ago ..

Steelers fans have been spoiled over the past 20-plus years. I can't remember the last season I came into not thinking that the Steelers would make the playoffs, and possibly win the Super Bowl. For about 20 years, that's been our expectation at the start of every season, even the ones under Cowher that ended up being losing seasons. The consistent success is almost unheard of in the modern NFL era. But it isn't going to last forever. At some point, there's going to be some dark years.

Fans under 40 don't know what it's like to root for a bad, or even mediocre, team, where the goal is just to not have a losing season. But sooner or later that time will come. I hope this isn't that time. Hopefully, Rudolph is the next Big Ben and not the next Cliff Stoudt.

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PostSubject: Re: Ben Roethlisberger Out For Season   Ben Roethlisberger Out For Season EmptyMon Sep 16, 2019 1:08 pm

I've been saying for awhile,couple years now that the older we get the worse an injury can be. I saw where one reporter said Ben was having issues at practice last week. That explains the quick short passes. I don't want to see his career end this way and I can understand him sitting by himself trying to come to grips with what could be a career ending injury. We don't know if it is. Either way I won't be surprised to see someone get cut (please let it be Moncrief) to make room for Hodges or whoever they bring in to backup Rudolph.

Hell we're 0-2. Let Johnson get some game time. JU JU...Washington... Johnson...Switzer and Holton suite me just fine.
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PostSubject: Re: Ben Roethlisberger Out For Season   Ben Roethlisberger Out For Season EmptyMon Sep 16, 2019 1:11 pm

I'm not a fan of Deion Sanders, but after the Patriots* game, he turned into Nostradamus ...


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PostSubject: Re: Ben Roethlisberger Out For Season   Ben Roethlisberger Out For Season EmptyMon Sep 16, 2019 1:17 pm

@Wallace108 wrote:
@Mach1 wrote:
I hope this isn't a trip back to the '80s.

Truck said the exact same thing to me last night. My response ... "Maybe we've been in the 80s for a few years but just didn't realize it."

I guess I'll bring up a point I used to make a number of years ago ..

Steelers fans have been spoiled over the past 20-plus years. I can't remember the last season I came into not thinking that the Steelers would make the playoffs, and possibly win the Super Bowl. For about 20 years, that's been our expectation at the start of every season, even the ones under Cowher that ended up being losing seasons. The consistent success is almost unheard of in the modern NFL era. But it isn't going to last forever. At some point, there's going to be some dark years.

Fans under 40 don't know what it's like to root for a bad, or even mediocre, team, where the goal is just to not have a losing season. But sooner or later that time will come. I hope this isn't that time. Hopefully, Rudolph is the next Big Ben and not the next Cliff Stoudt.

Wally I thought Bubby Brister could get us to the SB so what's that say about me? Ben Roethlisberger Out For Season 2573146105 Be gentle we're all friends here. You are absolutely right though. We have been a highly competitive team for decades and have come to expect more than we probably deserve. You have to admit how cool it would be if this team came together with Rudolph at the helm.
Now my expectations are a little lower so I should sleep better. Honestly I wasn't all the upset about yesterday's loss. I guess because Rudolph played well enough to give us hope.

Now if he doesn't go brake his arm on a punching machine maybe we'll see some excitement. Ben Roethlisberger Out For Season 2981382511
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PostSubject: Re: Ben Roethlisberger Out For Season   Ben Roethlisberger Out For Season EmptyMon Sep 16, 2019 1:27 pm

On to the Mason Rudolph era!
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PostSubject: Re: Ben Roethlisberger Out For Season   Ben Roethlisberger Out For Season EmptyMon Sep 16, 2019 1:43 pm

I believe Mason Rudolph is going to shock a lot of people with what he is going to do for this team.
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PostSubject: Re: Ben Roethlisberger Out For Season   Ben Roethlisberger Out For Season EmptyMon Sep 16, 2019 2:03 pm

@Wallace108 wrote:
@Mach1 wrote:
I hope this isn't a trip back to the '80s.

Truck said the exact same thing to me last night. My response ... "Maybe we've been in the 80s for a few years but just didn't realize it."

I guess I'll bring up a point I used to make a number of years ago ..

Steelers fans have been spoiled over the past 20-plus years. I can't remember the last season I came into not thinking that the Steelers would make the playoffs, and possibly win the Super Bowl. For about 20 years, that's been our expectation at the start of every season, even the ones under Cowher that ended up being losing seasons. The consistent success is almost unheard of in the modern NFL era. But it isn't going to last forever. At some point, there's going to be some dark years.

Fans under 40 don't know what it's like to root for a bad, or even mediocre, team, where the goal is just to not have a losing season. But sooner or later that time will come. I hope this isn't that time. Hopefully, Rudolph is the next Big Ben and not the next Cliff Stoudt.

Yep we got spoiled that's for sure. I can't help thinking back to Stoudt, Malone and Brister. lol
I think Rudolph has what it takes, it's a similar situation when Ben took over for Maddox.
Only time will tell.

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PostSubject: Re: Ben Roethlisberger Out For Season   Ben Roethlisberger Out For Season EmptyMon Sep 16, 2019 2:12 pm

Bad way to end a career, but it's exactly how Bradshaw's ended 35 years ago. I think this will be it for Big Ben sadly, and he knows it. I hope Conner's injury isn't nearly as serious!

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PostSubject: Re: Ben Roethlisberger Out For Season   Ben Roethlisberger Out For Season EmptyMon Sep 16, 2019 2:14 pm

@solardave wrote:
I've been saying for awhile,couple years now that the older we get the worse an injury can be. I saw where one reporter said Ben was having issues at practice last week. That explains the quick short passes. I don't want to see his career end this way and I can understand him sitting by himself trying to come to grips with what could be a career ending injury. We don't know if it is. Either way I won't be surprised to see someone get cut (please let it be Moncrief) to make room for Hodges or whoever they bring in to backup Rudolph.

Hell we're 0-2. Let Johnson get some game time. JU JU...Washington... Johnson...Switzer and Holton suite me just fine.

They should just release Moncrief. He is completely worthless.

I'm with you, play Johnson and the others you mentioned. But for crying out loud, your starters are Ju Ju and Washington, is that so hard for people to see? Play Washington All The Time. He's really good and he's earned it. Plus it will help Rudolph.
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PostSubject: Re: Ben Roethlisberger Out For Season   Ben Roethlisberger Out For Season EmptyMon Sep 16, 2019 2:27 pm

meh...the way i look at it is Ben was going to be gone sooner rather than later. you gotta pull the band aid of quick.while Bens passing yardage may have increased over the last few years , the magic he used to display that endeared him to steeler fans with the 4th quarter come backs and turning a would be sack into a big play have been becoming rare. the "wow" factor has been disappearing. his increased passing yardage stats havent translated to playoff wins.
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PostSubject: Re: Ben Roethlisberger Out For Season   Ben Roethlisberger Out For Season EmptyMon Sep 16, 2019 3:11 pm

@Master_Of_Puppets wrote:
meh...the way i look at it is Ben was going to be gone sooner rather than later. you gotta pull the band aid of quick.while Bens passing yardage may have increased over the last few years , the magic he used to display that endeared him to steeler fans with the 4th quarter come backs and turning a would be sack into a big play have been becoming rare. the "wow" factor has been disappearing. his increased passing yardage stats havent translated to playoff wins.

There's a lot of hard truths packed into that post. During the game yesterday, one of the announcers mentioned how hard it is to bring Ben down. I said to my son, "Seriously? Has he watched any Steelers games the past few years?" I can't remember the last time Ben shook off tackles and turned it into a big play. He gets hit now, he goes down.

I think the announcer, much like some Steelers fans, think Ben is the same player physically that he was 10 years ago. He's not.

Last night, I thought about making a post that it might be time to sit Ben and see what they have in Rudolph. One of two things would come from that ... either Rudolph gains needed experience heading into the future, or they learn he's not the guy and start looking for the future QB.

Some Steelers fans don't want to hear that. They think Ben is still at the top of his game. He's not. I remember the 49ers moving on from Montana when he still had a few years left but was no longer at the top of his game. The Packers did the same with Favre. The Colts did it with Manning. I saw enough potential in Rudolph that the Steelers should do the same. Sure, we don't know if Rudolph is the future. But we do know that Ben is not.

Even before today's news, it was time to start building for the future. This isn't a Super Bowl team, even with a healthy Ben. So it was best to pull the band aid off and move forward. I doubt the Steelers would have made that decision on their own. For better or worse, the decision was made for them.

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PostSubject: Re: Ben Roethlisberger Out For Season   Ben Roethlisberger Out For Season EmptyMon Sep 16, 2019 3:19 pm

the time to SERIOUSLY look for bens replacement was a few years ago. i wish we could search our post history like we could on the old forum because i would be dragging up my post lobbying for patrick mahomes. i predicted he would be the best qb in that years class...looks like andy reed and myself were the only ones to see it ... Ben Roethlisberger Out For Season 1797695198
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PostSubject: Re: Ben Roethlisberger Out For Season   Ben Roethlisberger Out For Season EmptyMon Sep 16, 2019 3:29 pm

@Master_Of_Puppets wrote:
i wish we could search our post history like we could on the old forum because i would be dragging up my post lobbying for patrick mahomes.

There's a Search button at the top of the forum. Also, you can search through your own posts ...

Click on your username.

Right above the box that says "All about Master of Puppets," you'll see links in gray text. Click on "Statistics."

You can then choose to display all the threads you've posted in or all of your individual posts.

It's not the best system, but it's better than nothing I guess.

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PostSubject: Re: Ben Roethlisberger Out For Season   Ben Roethlisberger Out For Season EmptyMon Sep 16, 2019 3:53 pm

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Mark Madden: Ben Roethlisberger’s injury tops long list of Steelers’ problems

MARK MADDEN | Monday, September 16, 2019

Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger plays against the Patriots* Sept. 10, 2015 at Gillette Stadium.

It was hoped that the departure of Antonio Brown would make the Steelers a more focused and disciplined team by way of removing distraction.

It hasn’t turned out that way.

Losing Ben Roethlisberger for the rest of the season trumps any other problem. But the Steelers are in a state of perpetual sloppiness that won’t be corrected as long as Mike Tomlin is coach. Lack of accountability has taken firm root. Rome will keep burning as long as it’s the same fiddler playing the same tired tune.

That was evidenced by a host of miscues in Sunday’s 28-26 home loss to Seattle. Eliminating almost any one of them would have meant victory.

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Are you now celebrating a serious injury of the franchise QB that won us 2 SB?
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As much as I want to see Tomlin gone, props for falling in love with and trading up for Rudolph.
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