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PostSubject: Re: Bryant at it again   Bryant at it again - Page 3 EmptyTue Oct 31, 2017 6:19 pm

@effyou515 wrote:
did you see the graphic Sunday nights game where MB was targeted 33 times 3rd on the list with only 18 catches.

I wonder how much of it is Bryant not making enough effort to get open or Ben misfiring. It's probably both. Would like to see him finish the season strong in any case. It makers us a better team and it enhances his value (through trade or new contract)
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PostSubject: Re: Bryant at it again   Bryant at it again - Page 3 EmptyTue Oct 31, 2017 7:52 pm

@Hawaii 5-0 wrote:
Fowler: Martavis Bryant Told He’ll Be Involved In Week 10 Gameplan

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2017/10/fowler-martavis-bryant-told-hell-involved-week-10-gameplan/

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Tomlin did say he is “not” confident Bryant will help the team down the stretch, the most interesting comments he made on the subject.

Yeah, those are interesting comments indeed. Anyways, I'm glad they didn't give him his way or Blount him.

It's good to see you again Hawaii. BTW, did you ever see the movie Burnt Offerings? AB's limo driver reminds me of the ghost driver in that movie  Bryant at it again - Page 3 2981382511
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@Hawaii 5-0 wrote:
Fowler: Martavis Bryant Told He’ll Be Involved In Week 10 Gameplan

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2017/10/fowler-martavis-bryant-told-hell-involved-week-10-gameplan/

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Tomlin did say he is “not” confident Bryant will help the team down the stretch, the most interesting comments he made on the subject.

Yeah, those are interesting comments indeed. Anyways, I'm glad they didn't give him his way or Blount him.

It's good to see you again Hawaii. BTW, did you ever see the movie Burnt Offerings? AB's limo driver reminds me of the ghost driver in that movie  Bryant at it again - Page 3 2981382511

That video in the link is very informative. If you have 20 minutes, it is worth the watch.
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Embattled Steelers WR Martavis Bryant shows how 'special' he can be

CHRIS ADAMSKI | Sunday, Nov. 12, 2017

http://triblive.com/sports/steelers/12941921-74/embattled-steelers-wr-martavis-bryant-shows-how-special-he-can-be
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PostSubject: Re: Bryant at it again   Bryant at it again - Page 3 EmptyMon Nov 13, 2017 5:40 pm

he seem to be a 2 trick pony right now crossing and fly patterns. double team AB MB runs a crossing pattern to AB side should be a big hole there since AB took 2 defenders with him. the defense changes up to defend the crossing pattern MB run the fly pattern.


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PostSubject: Re: Bryant at it again   Bryant at it again - Page 3 EmptyMon Nov 13, 2017 6:03 pm

@effyou515 wrote:
he seem to be a 2 trick pony right now crossing and fly patterns. double team AB MB runs a crossing pattern to AB side should be a big hole there since AB took 2 defenders with him. the defense changes up to defend the crossing pattern MB run the fly pattern.


And the screen pass. His route tree does look terribly limited to even JJSS who's a 20 year old rookie, who looks like a veteran in comparison to MB

Though I can't deny MB's athletic talent, his speed is on another level. He does have that homerun ability that's lacking in all of our other WR's, if he finds daylight he's gone. Not a knock on AB or JJSS who are both fast, but MB's speed is on that other level like I said.

However I really think his production is because his route running / tree is extremely predictable. If this doesn't change, teams will continue to be ready for him.
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PostSubject: Re: Bryant at it again   Bryant at it again - Page 3 EmptyMon Nov 13, 2017 8:51 pm

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@effyou515 wrote:
he seem to be a 2 trick pony right now crossing and fly patterns. double team AB MB runs a crossing pattern to AB side should be a big hole there since AB took 2 defenders with him. the defense changes up to defend the crossing pattern MB run the fly pattern.


And the screen pass. His route tree does look terribly limited to even JJSS who's a 20 year old rookie, who looks like a veteran in comparison to MB

Though I can't deny MB's athletic talent, his speed is on another level. He does have that homerun ability that's lacking in all of our other WR's, if he finds daylight he's gone. Not a knock on AB or JJSS who are both fast, but MB's speed is on that other level like I said.

However I really think his production is because his route running / tree is extremely predictable. If this doesn't change, teams will continue to be ready for him.


But does B.B. have the arm to get it to him? Doesn’t see like he does any more. He consistently under throws on the deep passes now.
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PostSubject: Re: Bryant at it again   Bryant at it again - Page 3 EmptyWed Nov 15, 2017 8:40 pm

@SteelerFreak58 wrote:
@Fire Arians wrote:
@effyou515 wrote:
he seem to be a 2 trick pony right now crossing and fly patterns. double team AB MB runs a crossing pattern to AB side should be a big hole there since AB took 2 defenders with him. the defense changes up to defend the crossing pattern MB run the fly pattern.


And the screen pass. His route tree does look terribly limited to even JJSS who's a 20 year old rookie, who looks like a veteran in comparison to MB

Though I can't deny MB's athletic talent, his speed is on another level. He does have that homerun ability that's lacking in all of our other WR's, if he finds daylight he's gone. Not a knock on AB or JJSS who are both fast, but MB's speed is on that other level like I said.

However I really think his production is because his route running / tree is extremely predictable. If this doesn't change, teams will continue to be ready for him.


But does B.B. have the arm to get it to him? Doesn’t see like he does any more. He consistently under throws on the deep passes now.

quick slants or crossing patterns to MB the let him use his speed to get down field (but Ben doesn't like throwing those type of passes) to set up long pass to him.

Ben needs to throw the ball about 2 second quicker to hit MB on the long ball. imo it is very hard to over throw MB.

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PostSubject: Re: Bryant at it again   Bryant at it again - Page 3 EmptyThu Nov 16, 2017 10:43 am

@SteelerFreak58 wrote:
@Fire Arians wrote:
@effyou515 wrote:
he seem to be a 2 trick pony right now crossing and fly patterns. double team AB MB runs a crossing pattern to AB side should be a big hole there since AB took 2 defenders with him. the defense changes up to defend the crossing pattern MB run the fly pattern.


And the screen pass. His route tree does look terribly limited to even JJSS who's a 20 year old rookie, who looks like a veteran in comparison to MB

Though I can't deny MB's athletic talent, his speed is on another level. He does have that homerun ability that's lacking in all of our other WR's, if he finds daylight he's gone. Not a knock on AB or JJSS who are both fast, but MB's speed is on that other level like I said.

However I really think his production is because his route running / tree is extremely predictable. If this doesn't change, teams will continue to be ready for him.


But does B.B. have the arm to get it to him? Doesn’t see like he does any more. He consistently under throws on the deep passes now.

I think he does. His arm strength isn't the issue it seems, it's his accuracy. It's off this year, don't know if that's a timing issue though. It does seem to be improving with him and JJSS finding chemistry though.
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PostSubject: Re: Bryant at it again   Bryant at it again - Page 3 EmptyThu Nov 16, 2017 3:37 pm

@Fire Arians wrote:
@SteelerFreak58 wrote:
@Fire Arians wrote:
@effyou515 wrote:
he seem to be a 2 trick pony right now crossing and fly patterns. double team AB MB runs a crossing pattern to AB side should be a big hole there since AB took 2 defenders with him. the defense changes up to defend the crossing pattern MB run the fly pattern.


And the screen pass. His route tree does look terribly limited to even JJSS who's a 20 year old rookie, who looks like a veteran in comparison to MB

Though I can't deny MB's athletic talent, his speed is on another level. He does have that homerun ability that's lacking in all of our other WR's, if he finds daylight he's gone. Not a knock on AB or JJSS who are both fast, but MB's speed is on that other level like I said.

However I really think his production is because his route running / tree is extremely predictable. If this doesn't change, teams will continue to be ready for him.


But does B.B. have the arm to get it to him? Doesn’t see like he does any more. He consistently under throws on the deep passes now.

I think he does. His arm strength isn't the issue it seems, it's his accuracy. It's off this year, don't know if that's a timing issue though. It does seem to be improving with him and JJSS finding chemistry though.

Good point on the accuracy issue. I listened to the post game segment on SNR and Charlie Batch mentioned inconsistent accuracy from Ben may be associated with the multiple knee injuries he's suffered over the course of his career.  He didn't say that was the reason, but offered it up as a plausible explanation.
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PostSubject: Re: Bryant at it again   Bryant at it again - Page 3 EmptyFri Nov 17, 2017 7:37 am

Last night MB was in the right place at the right time. His positioning on the field allowed the Steelers to put 3 more points on the board before halftime.

IMO, he took advantage of plays going his way. He definitely looked focused and engaged in this game. I hope this is the MB we were hoping to get all season, and not just a one night appearance.

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PostSubject: Re: Bryant at it again   Bryant at it again - Page 3 EmptyFri Nov 17, 2017 12:28 pm

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Last night MB was in the right place at the right time.  His positioning on the field allowed the Steelers to put 3 more points on the board before halftime.

IMO, he took advantage of plays going his way.  He definitely looked focused and engaged in this game.  I hope this is the MB we were hoping to get all season, and not just a one night appearance.

Yeah I did like the hustle he was showing. Makes me hopeful he can return to his old form
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PostSubject: Re: Bryant at it again   Bryant at it again - Page 3 EmptyFri Nov 24, 2017 1:48 am

I'm hoping that that benching for a week showed MB all the fun he was missing out on. It's pretty sad when you are acting less mature than the youngest WR in the NFL. Attitude seems to have changed since they benched him for running his mouth.

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I'm still not sure he should be in our long term plan. I complained about Ben throwing to him after he has dropped a couple but after re-thinking that I'd like to see him have a good season going forward so maybe we could get a higher draft pick for him.
I honestly believe we're not only good with AB,JU JU, Rogers and the backups, but we would be better off. I think it's just a matter of time before he shows his immaturity again. If we can pick up a 2nd or 3rd round pick for him (just not from the Patriots*) we could use it to replace him.
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PostSubject: Re: Bryant at it again   Bryant at it again - Page 3 EmptyFri Nov 24, 2017 8:24 am

Rogers worries me, kid looked promising last season, and he's had opportunities this season but has really dropped the ball. Hasn't been playing any better than Bryant whose been the biggest disappointment in our offense by and far. I too hope we can trade Bryant for something worthwhile, so we can get a replacement.

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PostSubject: Re: Bryant at it again   Bryant at it again - Page 3 EmptyFri Nov 24, 2017 10:02 am

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I'm still not sure he should be in our long term plan. I complained about Ben throwing to him after he has dropped a couple but after re-thinking that I'd like to see him have a good season going forward so maybe we could get a higher draft pick for him.
I honestly believe we're not only good with AB,JU JU, Rogers and the backups, but we would be better off. I think it's just a matter of time before he shows his immaturity again. If we can pick up a 2nd or 3rd round pick for him (just not from the Patriots**) we could use it to replace him.

There is no way we will ever get a 2nd or 3rd for him. He is one toke [over the line?] away from another year off of football. Very few teams are going to offer more than a 6th or 7th for him.

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PostSubject: Re: Bryant at it again   Bryant at it again - Page 3 EmptyMon Nov 27, 2017 8:16 am

There was a play in the 4th quarter where MB ran a slant but his efforts in the route running were lethargic.

Had he hustled he could've helped Ben out, gotten open, and then had extra yards to run. While this was only one play, he stuck out among the entire game.

With that being said, MB also made some good plays and showed us how good of an asset he can be for the Steelers.

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PostSubject: Re: Bryant at it again   Bryant at it again - Page 3 EmptyMon Nov 27, 2017 12:36 pm

We need him, especially with the lack of pass catching ability on display last night by Eli. Bryant only had one drop which was his fault, the other one was well defended. I think Eli had 4! MB was getting open when he needed to and was even throwing some good blocks for Bell. The TD catch puts him on the road to recovery for both Ben and the fans.

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