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@Wallace108 wrote:
Mark Madden is having a bad day. Or a good day, depending on how you look at it.

He isn't taking the news well.

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Juju has nothing to do with Nelson's situation, that much is clear now
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@jak341 wrote:
@Master_Of_Puppets wrote:
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If Nelson is traded, I am assuming that we will get a 3rd or 4th this year for him.
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Is JuJu Becoming Just As A Distraction As AB? - Page 5 2672159185   a player that is still under contract does not qualify for a comp pick.
had JuJu excepted an offer in the 8-9 million range with another team he might have gotten them a 5th round comp pick. this year 4th comp pick was for hargrave who's contract averaged 12 million a year. so JuJu's other offers were not even close to 4th round consideration.

Not a comp. pick, but a plain, shiny, and new 2021 draft pick in return.
oh did they even try to shop him around ? Is JuJu Becoming Just As A Distraction As AB? - Page 5 2829330259

edit : my bad. i thought they cut him rather than tell him to look for a new home. they should have done this earlier , because now teams know all they have to do is wait for him to be cut.


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@Wallace108 wrote:
Mark Madden is having a bad day. Or a good day, depending on how you look at it.

He isn't taking the news well.

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I don't like Juju's tiktok crap either, but Juju is 24 and is still young so it's normal he's a bit immature. Mark Madden otoh is an adult acting like a big crybaby right now, which is way worse than Juju's tiktok. It's hilarious and pathetic at the same time if you read his tweets now.
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Benz isn't taking the news well either.

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@Master_Of_Puppets wrote:
@jak341 wrote:
@Master_Of_Puppets wrote:
@jak341 wrote:
If Nelson is traded, I am assuming that we will get a 3rd or 4th this year for him.
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Is JuJu Becoming Just As A Distraction As AB? - Page 5 2672159185   a player that is still under contract does not qualify for a comp pick.
had JuJu excepted an offer in the 8-9 million range with another team he might have gotten them a 5th round comp pick. this year 4th comp pick was for hargrave who's contract averaged 12 million a year. so JuJu's other offers were not even close to 4th round consideration.

Not a comp. pick, but a plain, shiny, and new 2021 draft pick in return.
oh did they even try to shop him around ? Is JuJu Becoming Just As A Distraction As AB? - Page 5 2829330259

edit : my bad. i thought they cut him rather than tell him to look for a new home.  they should have done this earlier , because now teams know all they have to do is wait for him to be cut.

I wouldn't say there is any chance he gets cut. His agent can find a deal that benefits both parties, or he is back for a 2021 season. Nelson can always sit out for the 10 games or so, a la Bell, but that doesn't do much for him in getting a potential last payday.
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@jak341 wrote:
@Master_Of_Puppets wrote:
@jak341 wrote:
@Master_Of_Puppets wrote:
@jak341 wrote:
If Nelson is traded, I am assuming that we will get a 3rd or 4th this year for him.
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Is JuJu Becoming Just As A Distraction As AB? - Page 5 2672159185   a player that is still under contract does not qualify for a comp pick.
had JuJu excepted an offer in the 8-9 million range with another team he might have gotten them a 5th round comp pick. this year 4th comp pick was for hargrave who's contract averaged 12 million a year. so JuJu's other offers were not even close to 4th round consideration.

Not a comp. pick, but a plain, shiny, and new 2021 draft pick in return.
oh did they even try to shop him around ? Is JuJu Becoming Just As A Distraction As AB? - Page 5 2829330259

edit : my bad. i thought they cut him rather than tell him to look for a new home.  they should have done this earlier , because now teams know all they have to do is wait for him to be cut.

I wouldn't say there is any chance he gets cut. His agent can find a deal that benefits both parties, or he is back for a 2021 season. Nelson can always sit out for the 10 games or so, a la Bell, but that doesn't do much for him in getting a potential last payday.

i was just going by this report ... Is JuJu Becoming Just As A Distraction As AB? - Page 5 2087824411  ...but of course it could be wrong. i guess we'll just have to wait and see.
if im rooney i'd be pissed at whomever leaked this. i mean if teams think he is gone by trade or not, there is no incentive to trade anything. if the report is wrong , i'd be calling rapopport out in public and tell him to STFU.

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According to NFL Network reporter Ian Rapoport, the Pittsburgh Steelers are planning to part ways with cornerback Steven Nelson whether he is traded or not. With the news the Steelers are bringing wide receiver JuJu Smith-Schuster back on a one-year, $8 million contract, the team has given Nelson permission to seek a trade

However, should Nelson find no takers, it sounds like Pittsburgh will release him anyway in order to free up the money to pay Smith-Schuster.

This is a bold move by Pittsburgh because Nelson has been the team’s best boundary cornerback the last two seasons. The team has already lost Mike Hilton to free agency so letting Nelson walk is going to really create a void at cornerback. The team clearly has confidence in Cameron Sutton and Justin Layne as well as the option to seek out help later on in free agency and via the 2021 NFL draft.
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@Master_Of_Puppets wrote:
@jak341 wrote:
@Master_Of_Puppets wrote:
@jak341 wrote:
@Master_Of_Puppets wrote:
@jak341 wrote:
If Nelson is traded, I am assuming that we will get a 3rd or 4th this year for him.
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Is JuJu Becoming Just As A Distraction As AB? - Page 5 2672159185   a player that is still under contract does not qualify for a comp pick.
had JuJu excepted an offer in the 8-9 million range with another team he might have gotten them a 5th round comp pick. this year 4th comp pick was for hargrave who's contract averaged 12 million a year. so JuJu's other offers were not even close to 4th round consideration.

Not a comp. pick, but a plain, shiny, and new 2021 draft pick in return.
oh did they even try to shop him around ? Is JuJu Becoming Just As A Distraction As AB? - Page 5 2829330259

edit : my bad. i thought they cut him rather than tell him to look for a new home.  they should have done this earlier , because now teams know all they have to do is wait for him to be cut.

I wouldn't say there is any chance he gets cut. His agent can find a deal that benefits both parties, or he is back for a 2021 season. Nelson can always sit out for the 10 games or so, a la Bell, but that doesn't do much for him in getting a potential last payday.

i was just going by this report ... Is JuJu Becoming Just As A Distraction As AB? - Page 5 2087824411  ...but of course it could be wrong. i guess we'll just have to wait and see.
if im rooney i'd be pissed at whomever leaked this. i mean if teams think he is gone by trade or not, there is no incentive to trade anything. if the report is wrong , i'd be calling rapopport out in public and tell him to STFU.

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According to NFL Network reporter Ian Rapoport, the Pittsburgh Steelers are planning to part ways with cornerback Steven Nelson whether he is traded or not. With the news the Steelers are bringing wide receiver JuJu Smith-Schuster back on a one-year, $8 million contract, the team has given Nelson permission to seek a trade

However, should Nelson find no takers, it sounds like Pittsburgh will release him anyway in order to free up the money to pay Smith-Schuster.

This is a bold move by Pittsburgh because Nelson has been the team’s best boundary cornerback the last two seasons. The team has already lost Mike Hilton to free agency so letting Nelson walk is going to really create a void at cornerback. The team clearly has confidence in Cameron Sutton and Justin Layne as well as the option to seek out help later on in free agency and via the 2021 NFL draft.

I didn't see that report.
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@jak341 wrote:
@Master_Of_Puppets wrote:
@jak341 wrote:
@Master_Of_Puppets wrote:
@jak341 wrote:
@Master_Of_Puppets wrote:
@jak341 wrote:
If Nelson is traded, I am assuming that we will get a 3rd or 4th this year for him.
.

Is JuJu Becoming Just As A Distraction As AB? - Page 5 2672159185   a player that is still under contract does not qualify for a comp pick.
had JuJu excepted an offer in the 8-9 million range with another team he might have gotten them a 5th round comp pick. this year 4th comp pick was for hargrave who's contract averaged 12 million a year. so JuJu's other offers were not even close to 4th round consideration.

Not a comp. pick, but a plain, shiny, and new 2021 draft pick in return.
oh did they even try to shop him around ? Is JuJu Becoming Just As A Distraction As AB? - Page 5 2829330259

edit : my bad. i thought they cut him rather than tell him to look for a new home.  they should have done this earlier , because now teams know all they have to do is wait for him to be cut.

I wouldn't say there is any chance he gets cut. His agent can find a deal that benefits both parties, or he is back for a 2021 season. Nelson can always sit out for the 10 games or so, a la Bell, but that doesn't do much for him in getting a potential last payday.

i was just going by this report ... Is JuJu Becoming Just As A Distraction As AB? - Page 5 2087824411  ...but of course it could be wrong. i guess we'll just have to wait and see.
if im rooney i'd be pissed at whomever leaked this. i mean if teams think he is gone by trade or not, there is no incentive to trade anything. if the report is wrong , i'd be calling rapopport out in public and tell him to STFU.

Quote :
According to NFL Network reporter Ian Rapoport, the Pittsburgh Steelers are planning to part ways with cornerback Steven Nelson whether he is traded or not. With the news the Steelers are bringing wide receiver JuJu Smith-Schuster back on a one-year, $8 million contract, the team has given Nelson permission to seek a trade

However, should Nelson find no takers, it sounds like Pittsburgh will release him anyway in order to free up the money to pay Smith-Schuster.

This is a bold move by Pittsburgh because Nelson has been the team’s best boundary cornerback the last two seasons. The team has already lost Mike Hilton to free agency so letting Nelson walk is going to really create a void at cornerback. The team clearly has confidence in Cameron Sutton and Justin Layne as well as the option to seek out help later on in free agency and via the 2021 NFL draft.

I didn't see that report.
with the way the steelers structured JUJU's contract, his cap hit is a moot point and should have no impact in dealing with nelson. so for now i will take the report with a grain of salt.
of course i dont think it is impossible that nelsons or his agent gave this info to rapopport. i mean who would not prefer to get to choose their next employer ? what better way to sabotage the steelers chance of a trade then to put it out there that they dont have to give up shit ?
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I think the Organization is thinking Pierre and/or Layne are capable to take over for Nelson.
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I think the Organization is thinking Pierre and/or Layne are capable to take over for Nelson.
Time will tell but sometimes you have no choice but to go that direction. Eventually the kids gotta step up.
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I think the Organization is thinking Pierre and/or Layne are capable to take over for Nelson.
im thinkin its not Lane. pierre got more snaps in the last game against cleveland than lane did ( 18 > 16 ). if they thought lane was the next man up, im thinking they would have wanted to get him as much game time as possible.

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I like the Juju re-signing. Some of his antics are annoying, like the dancing on other team's logos. His social media presence, and that he seems to do mostly in his free time, but sometimes it bleeds into his job. I do think he needs to mature a bit in regards to that, you're being paid, your job should come before your "brand". That being said I have trouble faulting the kid for having fun, he's only 24 and you only get to live life once.

I also think he really and truly loves the city, he could've taken a bigger contract to play elsewhere and he turned those down and agreed to a very team-friendly contract that gives them the opportunity to try and come to terms next offseason with a longer-term contract.

So I guess the kids not perfect, but he's a good player and ultimately I'm happier he's staying with the team. I hope he doesn't make me regret saying this lol.

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I like the Juju re-signing. Some of his antics are annoying, like the dancing on other team's logos. His social media presence, and that he seems to do mostly in his free time, but sometimes it bleeds into his job. I do think he needs to mature a bit in regards to that, you're being paid, your job should come before your "brand". That being said I have trouble faulting the kid for having fun, he's only 24 and you only get to live life once.

I also think he really and truly loves the city, he could've taken a bigger contract to play elsewhere and he turned those down and agreed to a very team-friendly contract that gives them the opportunity to try and come to terms next offseason with a longer-term contract.

So I guess the kids not perfect, but he's a good player and ultimately I'm happier he's staying with the team. I hope he doesn't make me regret saying this lol.

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I like the kid. Agree that he was doing stupid stuff, just like most of us when we were 23, 24 years old. Fortunately for me, I wasn't rich nor famous, so when I did stupid stuff I was just a regular dumbass Embarassed

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@kirklandrules wrote:
@IowaSteeler927 wrote:
I like the Juju re-signing. Some of his antics are annoying, like the dancing on other team's logos. His social media presence, and that he seems to do mostly in his free time, but sometimes it bleeds into his job. I do think he needs to mature a bit in regards to that, you're being paid, your job should come before your "brand". That being said I have trouble faulting the kid for having fun, he's only 24 and you only get to live life once.

I also think he really and truly loves the city, he could've taken a bigger contract to play elsewhere and he turned those down and agreed to a very team-friendly contract that gives them the opportunity to try and come to terms next offseason with a longer-term contract.

So I guess the kids not perfect, but he's a good player and ultimately I'm happier he's staying with the team. I hope he doesn't make me regret saying this lol.

His attempt to build his brand, hurt his brand Is JuJu Becoming Just As A Distraction As AB? - Page 5 1401235891

I like the kid. Agree that he was doing stupid stuff, just like most of us when we were 23, 24 years old. Fortunately for me, I wasn't rich nor famous, so when I did stupid stuff I was just a regular dumbass Embarassed
EVERY team has at least a few attention whoring assclowns. how much if any his off field antics had to do with a lack of interest we can only speculate. i would think his on field tape just failed to impress. sure he caught a lot of balls , but 5 yard patterns just aint as eye catching as 50 yard bombs. i think JuJu can thank Fichtner for hurting his bank account. while JuJu was working on his "brand" , fichtner was also working on JuJu's on field brand. he built  him the "possession" receiver brand. possession receivers dont get the big pay days.

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@Master_Of_Puppets wrote:
@kirklandrules wrote:
@IowaSteeler927 wrote:
I like the Juju re-signing. Some of his antics are annoying, like the dancing on other team's logos. His social media presence, and that he seems to do mostly in his free time, but sometimes it bleeds into his job. I do think he needs to mature a bit in regards to that, you're being paid, your job should come before your "brand". That being said I have trouble faulting the kid for having fun, he's only 24 and you only get to live life once.

I also think he really and truly loves the city, he could've taken a bigger contract to play elsewhere and he turned those down and agreed to a very team-friendly contract that gives them the opportunity to try and come to terms next offseason with a longer-term contract.

So I guess the kids not perfect, but he's a good player and ultimately I'm happier he's staying with the team. I hope he doesn't make me regret saying this lol.

His attempt to build his brand, hurt his brand Is JuJu Becoming Just As A Distraction As AB? - Page 5 1401235891

I like the kid. Agree that he was doing stupid stuff, just like most of us when we were 23, 24 years old. Fortunately for me, I wasn't rich nor famous, so when I did stupid stuff I was just a regular dumbass Embarassed
EVERY team has at least a few attention whoring assclowns. how much if any his off field antics had to do with a lack of interest we can only speculate. i would think his on field tape just failed to impress. sure he caught a lot of balls , but 5 yard patterns just aint as eye catching as 50 yard bombs. i think JuJu can thank Fichtner for hurting his bank account. while JuJu was working on his "brand" , fichtner was also working on JuJu's on field brand. he built  him the "possession" receiver brand. possession receivers dont get the big pay days.
I want to see what he does under Canada. Our offense can't be any worse. Is JuJu Becoming Just As A Distraction As AB? - Page 5 2087824411
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I'm looking forward to the Canada offense. As long as Ben gets on board, it should be exciting.
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@solardave wrote:
@Master_Of_Puppets wrote:
@kirklandrules wrote:
@IowaSteeler927 wrote:
I like the Juju re-signing. Some of his antics are annoying, like the dancing on other team's logos. His social media presence, and that he seems to do mostly in his free time, but sometimes it bleeds into his job. I do think he needs to mature a bit in regards to that, you're being paid, your job should come before your "brand". That being said I have trouble faulting the kid for having fun, he's only 24 and you only get to live life once.

I also think he really and truly loves the city, he could've taken a bigger contract to play elsewhere and he turned those down and agreed to a very team-friendly contract that gives them the opportunity to try and come to terms next offseason with a longer-term contract.

So I guess the kids not perfect, but he's a good player and ultimately I'm happier he's staying with the team. I hope he doesn't make me regret saying this lol.

His attempt to build his brand, hurt his brand Is JuJu Becoming Just As A Distraction As AB? - Page 5 1401235891

I like the kid. Agree that he was doing stupid stuff, just like most of us when we were 23, 24 years old. Fortunately for me, I wasn't rich nor famous, so when I did stupid stuff I was just a regular dumbass Embarassed
EVERY team has at least a few attention whoring assclowns. how much if any his off field antics had to do with a lack of interest we can only speculate. i would think his on field tape just failed to impress. sure he caught a lot of balls , but 5 yard patterns just aint as eye catching as 50 yard bombs. i think JuJu can thank Fichtner for hurting his bank account. while JuJu was working on his "brand" , fichtner was also working on JuJu's on field brand. he built  him the "possession" receiver brand. possession receivers dont get the big pay days.
I want to see what he does under Canada. Our offense can't be any worse. Is JuJu Becoming Just As A Distraction As AB? - Page 5 2087824411

Our offense can be worse or close to it if they lead the league in drops, Ben can't hit the broad side of a barn, and there's no emphasis on the run game until its obvious the passing game is in the dumpster. Again, not defending Fitchner, but the players absolutely sucked on the field at about week 10. Keep sucking and Bill Walsh couldn't get a win out of them.
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@kirklandrules wrote:
@solardave wrote:
@Master_Of_Puppets wrote:
@kirklandrules wrote:
@IowaSteeler927 wrote:
I like the Juju re-signing. Some of his antics are annoying, like the dancing on other team's logos. His social media presence, and that he seems to do mostly in his free time, but sometimes it bleeds into his job. I do think he needs to mature a bit in regards to that, you're being paid, your job should come before your "brand". That being said I have trouble faulting the kid for having fun, he's only 24 and you only get to live life once.

I also think he really and truly loves the city, he could've taken a bigger contract to play elsewhere and he turned those down and agreed to a very team-friendly contract that gives them the opportunity to try and come to terms next offseason with a longer-term contract.

So I guess the kids not perfect, but he's a good player and ultimately I'm happier he's staying with the team. I hope he doesn't make me regret saying this lol.

His attempt to build his brand, hurt his brand Is JuJu Becoming Just As A Distraction As AB? - Page 5 1401235891

I like the kid. Agree that he was doing stupid stuff, just like most of us when we were 23, 24 years old. Fortunately for me, I wasn't rich nor famous, so when I did stupid stuff I was just a regular dumbass Embarassed


EVERY team has at least a few attention whoring assclowns. how much if any his off field antics had to do with a lack of interest we can only speculate. i would think his on field tape just failed to impress. sure he caught a lot of balls , but 5 yard patterns just aint as eye catching as 50 yard bombs. i think JuJu can thank Fichtner for hurting his bank account. while JuJu was working on his "brand" , fichtner was also working on JuJu's on field brand. he built  him the "possession" receiver brand. possession receivers dont get the big pay days.
I want to see what he does under Canada. Our offense can't be any worse. Is JuJu Becoming Just As A Distraction As AB? - Page 5 2087824411

Our offense can be worse or close to it if they lead the league in drops, Ben can't hit the broad side of a barn, and there's no emphasis on the run game until its obvious the passing game is in the dumpster. Again, not defending Fitchner, but the players absolutely sucked on the field at about week 10. Keep sucking and Bill Walsh couldn't get a win out of them.

You're right, Kirkland. No OC can overcome balls snapped 10 feet over the QB's head, receiver drops and other poor execution. Players still have to make plays.

I'm not convinced Ben should have come back. Hope I'm wrong but....
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@Great Randino wrote:
@kirklandrules wrote:
@solardave wrote:
@Master_Of_Puppets wrote:
@kirklandrules wrote:
@IowaSteeler927 wrote:
I like the Juju re-signing. Some of his antics are annoying, like the dancing on other team's logos. His social media presence, and that he seems to do mostly in his free time, but sometimes it bleeds into his job. I do think he needs to mature a bit in regards to that, you're being paid, your job should come before your "brand". That being said I have trouble faulting the kid for having fun, he's only 24 and you only get to live life once.

I also think he really and truly loves the city, he could've taken a bigger contract to play elsewhere and he turned those down and agreed to a very team-friendly contract that gives them the opportunity to try and come to terms next offseason with a longer-term contract.

So I guess the kids not perfect, but he's a good player and ultimately I'm happier he's staying with the team. I hope he doesn't make me regret saying this lol.

His attempt to build his brand, hurt his brand Is JuJu Becoming Just As A Distraction As AB? - Page 5 1401235891

I like the kid. Agree that he was doing stupid stuff, just like most of us when we were 23, 24 years old. Fortunately for me, I wasn't rich nor famous, so when I did stupid stuff I was just a regular dumbass Embarassed


EVERY team has at least a few attention whoring assclowns. how much if any his off field antics had to do with a lack of interest we can only speculate. i would think his on field tape just failed to impress. sure he caught a lot of balls , but 5 yard patterns just aint as eye catching as 50 yard bombs. i think JuJu can thank Fichtner for hurting his bank account. while JuJu was working on his "brand" , fichtner was also working on JuJu's on field brand. he built  him the "possession" receiver brand. possession receivers dont get the big pay days.
I want to see what he does under Canada. Our offense can't be any worse. Is JuJu Becoming Just As A Distraction As AB? - Page 5 2087824411

Our offense can be worse or close to it if they lead the league in drops, Ben can't hit the broad side of a barn, and there's no emphasis on the run game until its obvious the passing game is in the dumpster. Again, not defending Fitchner, but the players absolutely sucked on the field at about week 10. Keep sucking and Bill Walsh couldn't get a win out of them.

You're right, Kirkland.  No OC can overcome balls snapped 10 feet over the QB's head, receiver drops and other poor execution.  Players still have to make plays.

I'm not convinced Ben should have come back.  Hope I'm wrong but....

I can't explain Ben. He was justifiably considered a league MVP candidate through week 9, then totally fell apart. Seems that everything hit that offense all at the same time and they couldn't play their way out of it. I do know that he didn't suddenly grow old, so I don't think it was an over-the-hill issue. I was in favor of his return simply because he can be really good, his leadership is outstanding, and his experience is invaluable.

Fitchner was rightfully canned if for nothing else, he was the OC of a team that underwent a major offensive collapse late in the season. Captain of the ship, went down with the ship. Maybe Canada brings more energy and higher expectations than Fitchner. Honestly, I think the Steelers winning next season falls more on the coaches getting the players to perform at a high level than it does the scheme ... it's the Jimmys and Joes, not the Xs and Os!
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@kirklandrules wrote:
@Great Randino wrote:
@kirklandrules wrote:
@solardave wrote:
@Master_Of_Puppets wrote:
@kirklandrules wrote:
@IowaSteeler927 wrote:
I like the Juju re-signing. Some of his antics are annoying, like the dancing on other team's logos. His social media presence, and that he seems to do mostly in his free time, but sometimes it bleeds into his job. I do think he needs to mature a bit in regards to that, you're being paid, your job should come before your "brand". That being said I have trouble faulting the kid for having fun, he's only 24 and you only get to live life once.

I also think he really and truly loves the city, he could've taken a bigger contract to play elsewhere and he turned those down and agreed to a very team-friendly contract that gives them the opportunity to try and come to terms next offseason with a longer-term contract.

So I guess the kids not perfect, but he's a good player and ultimately I'm happier he's staying with the team. I hope he doesn't make me regret saying this lol.

His attempt to build his brand, hurt his brand Is JuJu Becoming Just As A Distraction As AB? - Page 5 1401235891

I like the kid. Agree that he was doing stupid stuff, just like most of us when we were 23, 24 years old. Fortunately for me, I wasn't rich nor famous, so when I did stupid stuff I was just a regular dumbass Embarassed


EVERY team has at least a few attention whoring assclowns. how much if any his off field antics had to do with a lack of interest we can only speculate. i would think his on field tape just failed to impress. sure he caught a lot of balls , but 5 yard patterns just aint as eye catching as 50 yard bombs. i think JuJu can thank Fichtner for hurting his bank account. while JuJu was working on his "brand" , fichtner was also working on JuJu's on field brand. he built  him the "possession" receiver brand. possession receivers dont get the big pay days.
I want to see what he does under Canada. Our offense can't be any worse. Is JuJu Becoming Just As A Distraction As AB? - Page 5 2087824411

Our offense can be worse or close to it if they lead the league in drops, Ben can't hit the broad side of a barn, and there's no emphasis on the run game until its obvious the passing game is in the dumpster. Again, not defending Fitchner, but the players absolutely sucked on the field at about week 10. Keep sucking and Bill Walsh couldn't get a win out of them.

You're right, Kirkland.  No OC can overcome balls snapped 10 feet over the QB's head, receiver drops and other poor execution.  Players still have to make plays.

I'm not convinced Ben should have come back.  Hope I'm wrong but....

I can't explain Ben. He was justifiably considered a league MVP candidate through week 9, then totally fell apart. Seems that everything hit that offense all at the same time and they couldn't play their way out of it. I do know that he didn't suddenly grow old, so I don't think it was an over-the-hill issue. I was in favor of his return simply because he can be really good, his leadership is outstanding, and his experience is invaluable.

Fitchner was rightfully canned if for nothing else, he was the OC of a team that underwent a major offensive collapse late in the season. Captain of the ship, went down with the ship. Maybe Canada brings more energy and higher expectations than Fitchner. Honestly, I think the Steelers winning next season falls more on the coaches getting the players to perform at a high level than it does the scheme ... it's the Jimmys and Joes, not the Xs and Os!

the thing i noticed at the beginning of the year Ben was overthrowing or throwing high. well that made me think his arm was fine. as the year went on , and i have posted it here with pics  ,  balls were often .getting to receivers at waste level and lower.  while its no excuse for not making the catch it doesn't help.  it was like a battery going dead or losing water pressure in a hose.  his arm just kept looking weaker and weaker. the guy was just to old to ask him to throw the ball that many times.
i myself am experience shoulder pain from throwing the ball to my dog. i have to throw it underarm now. i'm pretty sure the dog laughs at me.No

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This may not be true of every team, but for the Steelers, I've never seen them be particularly successful when they have to throw the ball 50+ times a game. Its more of a 50/50 with anyone they play - and that just should not be.
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They relied way too heavily on Ben for the latter part of the season. Statistically it was one of his best seasons but the dude is almost 40. You can't be having him throw the ball 50 times a game like that. We had no run game, we basically abandoned it because our offensive line got exposed. If we had balance this offense could do just fine.  I don't blame Ben for our offensive woes, I blame the coaching staff for their inability to develop an effective running game and refusal to recognize players like Pouncey and Villanueva were well past their primes. I'm excited to see what Canada does with the offense, and to see some youth enfused into the o-line.

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I think Ju Ju made a statement by signing a low ball 1 year offer. Now I think he has to prove he's worth the big bucks. Part of that means he has to grow up a little and stop with the anti-social media and dancing while not with the stars. Hopefully what we saw with Ben last year was a surgically repaired arm losing strength and he is now fully recovered. A strong running game with a guy like Harris or Entiene would go a long way. Ben wouldn't have to throw the ball 50 times and maybe he'd be more on point.
Then it's up to Ju Ju and all the others to CATCH THE DAMN BALL! I for one want to see more James Washington this year. He's the hardest working WR we have and catches everything thrown his way. If Johnson starts off dropping balls I'd give his job to JW in a heartbeat. An example is Ted Ginn Jr. One of the fastest,flashy guys coming into the league but he dropped a lot of balls. How many teams has he been with? If Johnson doesn't get his drops under control I see him following that path.
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@solardave wrote:
I think Ju Ju made a statement by signing a low ball 1 year offer. Now I think he has to prove he's worth the big bucks. Part of that means he has to grow up a little and stop with the anti-social media and dancing while not with the stars. Hopefully what we saw with Ben last year was a surgically repaired arm losing strength and he is now fully recovered. A strong running game with a guy like Harris or Entiene  would go a long way. Ben wouldn't have to throw the ball 50 times and maybe he'd be more on point.
Then it's up to Ju Ju and all the others to CATCH THE DAMN BALL! I for one want to see more James Washington this year. He's the hardest working WR we have and catches everything thrown his way. If Johnson starts off dropping balls I'd give his job to JW in a heartbeat. An example is Ted Ginn Jr. One of the fastest,flashy guys coming into the league but he dropped a lot of balls. How many teams has he been with? If Johnson doesn't get his drops under control I see him following that path.


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