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Derek Watt to join brother T.J. Watt with Steelers after four seasons as Chargers fullback, per report


Two-thirds of the Watt brothers will play for the Steelers in 2020.

On Tuesday, the Steelers came to terms with former Chargers fullback Derek Watt, according to NFL Network's Ian Rapoport. Watt is the younger brother of Texans pass rusher J.J. Watt and Steelers pass rusher T.J. Watt, who is expected to land a new deal with the Steelers this offseason. The youngest Watt can officially sign with the Steelers when the league's new year opens at 4 p.m. ET on Wednesday.

Like his brothers, Watt attended the University of Wisconsin, averaging 5.0 yards per carry during his senior season. He also spent three seasons in Madison blocking for Melvin Gordon, who later became his teammate with the Chargers.

A sixth round pick in the 2016 draft, Watt helped Gordon become one of the NFL's best running backs during their four seasons together with the Chargers. After rushing for just 641 yards as a rookie (the season before Watt joined the Chargers), Gordon averaged nearly 1,000 rushing yards per season from 2016-17. Gordon also saw his yards per carry average climb from 3.5 to 4.1 yards with Watt as his teammate.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/derek-watt-to-join-brother-t-j-watt-with-steelers-after-four-seasons-as-chargers-fullback-per-report/

Great!

Let's get the third one now!
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Love the move for Derek Watt
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I have to wonder What or I should say Watt this means for Rosey.
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PostSubject: Re: 2020-2021 Offseason Moves   2020-2021 Offseason Moves - Page 3 EmptyWed Mar 18, 2020 4:59 am

hmmm...could signing TJ's brother have anything to do with his up coming contract negotiations ? maybe they think it gives them a little leverage ... 2020-2021 Offseason Moves - Page 3 3135543967
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I have to wonder What or I should say Watt this means for Rosey.

they only save a million and some change cutting nix. i would imagine watts salary will be more than that. maybe rosies injury rehab isnt going well ? or as i said it is a suck up move for future negotiations for TJ. 2020-2021 Offseason Moves - Page 3 2087824411
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PostSubject: Re: 2020-2021 Offseason Moves   2020-2021 Offseason Moves - Page 3 EmptyWed Mar 18, 2020 9:09 am

Rosey is going to be released.

https://steelersdepot.com/2020/03/dulac-steelers-will-release-fb-roosevelt-nix-after-signing-fb-derek-watt/

I imagine this helps when it comes to resigning TJ. For all we know, TJ told Steelers brass to go get his brother.
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PostSubject: Re: 2020-2021 Offseason Moves   2020-2021 Offseason Moves - Page 3 EmptyWed Mar 18, 2020 9:47 am

Nix was hardly ever on the field. Watt is a good FB and its probably a way to entice TJ to take a little and I mean little discount next year to remain with the organization.

Nix was one of Tomlins favorites but he was very injury prone the last couple of years... its buisness.
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PostSubject: Re: 2020-2021 Offseason Moves   2020-2021 Offseason Moves - Page 3 EmptyWed Mar 18, 2020 3:53 pm

i'd like to see a throwback to older days where the steelers actually USED the fullback for more than blocking 4 or 5 times a game. Watt can catch and run and is a good special team guy.



Chargers fullback Derek Watt is embracing budding role at tight end
https://www.latimes.com/sports/chargers/story/2019-10-01/chargers-fullback-derek-watt-embracing-budding-role-at-tight-end
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a fullback? like pass catching FB.

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PostSubject: Re: 2020-2021 Offseason Moves   2020-2021 Offseason Moves - Page 3 EmptyThu Mar 19, 2020 12:20 am

Great respect for what Roosevelt Nix gave us for years. Great blocker. When he was in this year, we moved the ball on the ground. He was just injured too much.

Bell owes a big chunk of his bloated salary to Nix paving the way for him. See how he's done since.

Welcome to Derek Watt, I think he will be a great addition.

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a fullback? like pass catching FB.

i hope so..i'd like to see him used like an H back Oor a full back / TE hybrid. the steelers need to be more creative on offense.
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@Master_Of_Puppets wrote:
@effyou515 wrote:
a fullback? like pass catching FB.

i hope so..i'd like to see him used like an H back Oor a  full back / TE hybrid. the steelers need to be more creative on offense.

like when they use the TE as a trap blocker, having a FB in on short yardage plays.

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Mike Hilton is back.

https://www.pennlive.com/steelers/2020/03/what-the-mike-hilton-re-signing-foretells-for-the-steelers-secondary-defense.html
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Stefen Wisniewski signs with us.

https://www.wearecentralpa.com/sports/nittany-nation/former-penn-state-lineman-joining-steelers/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook_WTAJ-TV
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Hopefully he can stay healthy and solidify our left side. He was a beast at Penn St.
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the guy has only played a 16 game season 3 times in his career... 2020-2021 Offseason Moves - Page 3 1505004552
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2020-2021 Offseason Moves - Page 3 2893009358 LT equivalent to Vance McDonald.
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Jordan Dangerfield re-signed.

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QB Roethlisberger throws pain free, feels 'younger'

Ben Roethlisberger ramped up his throwing program six months removed from surgery on his right elbow, and the Pittsburgh Steelers' quarterback is giddy about the results.

"I'm throwing without pain for the first time in years," Roethlisberger told the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. "Some games, I would have a little pain. Some games, I would have a lot of pain. But in the New England game and the Seattle game [in 2019], it got to be too much. To be able to throw without pain now? That feels nice. That's a nice feeling. I know I'm not getting any younger, but I feel younger because I don't have any pain."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/qb-roethlisberger-throws-pain-free-152145270.html

might be good sign and the reason he was looking off target lately.

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Not sure how I feel about this one. Ebron is a boom or bust player, with more bust than boom. 6M / year is a lot for that. He has hands of stone, but can flat out fly down the field. r/Steelers on Reddit thinks this is a good move.

Former Colts TE Eric Ebron signing with Steelers on two-year, $12M deal - Schefter http://espn.com/app
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A Steelers - Ravens trade?

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Source: Eric Ebron, Steelers reach 2-year, $12M deal

The Pittsburgh Steelers have reached a deal with tight end Eric Ebron, he told ESPN's Josina Anderson on Friday.

The two-year deal is worth $12 million, a source told ESPN's Adam Schefter, and it fills a major need for the Steelers.

[Steelers coach Mike Tomlin] told me he's been on me since I was a Tar Heel, and he's happy to get one of the guys he wanted out of college," Ebron told ESPN's Anderson. "He said being a defensive coach, he knows I'm hard to game plan against, and I'm excited to come."

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@effyou515 wrote:
QB Roethlisberger throws pain free, feels 'younger'

Ben Roethlisberger ramped up his throwing program six months removed from surgery on his right elbow, and the Pittsburgh Steelers' quarterback is giddy about the results.

"I'm throwing without pain for the first time in years," Roethlisberger told the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. "Some games, I would have a little pain. Some games, I would have a lot of pain. But in the New England game and the Seattle game [in 2019], it got to be too much. To be able to throw without pain now? That feels nice. That's a nice feeling. I know I'm not getting any younger, but I feel younger because I don't have any pain."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/qb-roethlisberger-throws-pain-free-152145270.html

might be good sign and the reason he was looking off target lately.

From ESPN article, Ben on his weight:

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"I've heard people say I'm fat, and that just blows my mind," Roethlisberger said. "I'm lighter and in better shape than I was in either of the past two years. I haven't stopped working out. I normally don't work out in the offseason, but I've been doing everything five days a week with my trainer. Cardio twice a week. Legs twice a week. Upper body twice a week. ...

"I guess it's my beard that makes me look heavier. I must have 5 pounds in that, I know. But I'm not overweight."

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28930830/steelers-ben-roethlisberger-said-throwing-pain-first-years

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@jak341 wrote:
Not sure how I feel about this one. Ebron is a boom or bust player, with more bust than boom. 6M / year is a lot for that. He has hands of stone, but can flat out fly down the field. r/Steelers on Reddit thinks this is a good move.

Former Colts TE Eric Ebron signing with Steelers on two-year, $12M deal - Schefter  http://espn.com/app

read this old article and see if it helps your opinion...the colts let him walk because he is unreliable at catching AND...is a douchebag.

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Disgruntled Eric Ebron Drops Proverbial Ball

Tight end Eric Ebron is unhappy and says he wants to be more involved in the Indianapolis Colts offense.

He’s not the first to ask for passes to be thrown his way. Large salaries paid to NFL players with big egos typically translates to complaints shared with the public.

That’s where Ebron stepped out of bounds.

Forget how he does drop his share of passes, which is reason enough to discourage counting on him too much. Forget also how despite drops he had a breakout 2018 to earn his first Pro Bowl honor.

We’ve seen how good and bad Ebron can be. And because he’s been targeted less, it’s understandable for him to voice concerns to head coach Frank Reich, who has an open-door policy and values the importance of keeping open communication lines.

But Ebron didn’t need to share his gripe with reporters on Thursday. That’s not being a team-first player. That’s joining an endless list of professionals who inevitably can’t help but remind they are me-first.

That’s what this is really about. As much as we enjoy Ebron’s personality when he gives amusing observations in interviews, nobody should forget he’s in a contract year. He wants to get paid next offseason.

If I’m general manager Chris Ballard, Ebron making his grievance public is enough reason to let the tight end sign elsewhere after this season. Colts braintrusts know more than the rest of us and could justify the value of bringing him back because Ebron does draw defensive attention as a playmaker.

But his numbers are down. His 18 catches rank fifth and his 248 receiving yards rank third on the team. He’s also third on the Colts with three TDs. Ebron has been targeted 31 times and has four drops, and that latter assessment is generous. An argument could be made that he’s had two or three more.

Now consider that tight end Jack Doyle has been targeted 34 times and has one drop with 24 catches for 232 yards and two TDs. Doyle has been more reliable.

Ebron’s breakout 2018 consisted of career bests with 66 receptions for 750 yards and 13 TDs. The latter number led all tight ends. He also rushed for a score.

But the reality is the Colts, with quarterback Jacoby Brissett taking over for the retired Andrew Luck, have shifted more toward being a rushing team. They rank ninth in rushing at 129.8 yards per game compared to 23rd in passing at 213.9 yards per game.

Brissett has been mostly efficient in not making too many mistakes and avoiding risky throws — a pick-six against Oakland being the most obvious exception. He’s completed a career-best 64.8 percent of his passes for 1,649 yards and 14 TDs with three interceptions. When Luck was out there, he took more chances. That’s not a knock on Brissett, it’s just the way it is.

Also consider Doyle is the most reliable blocker at his position, a key to springing some of those runs. Mo Alie-Cox is also used in those situations. Ebron typically isn’t. It’s not his strength. So that’s going to reduce the number of plays he’s on the field.

Expect the Colts (5-3) to be run-first on Sunday against the Miami Dolphins (1-7), who are 31st in rushing defense. Whether Ebron gets more touches or not will depend upon how he’s defended and whether he gets open on plays designed for him.

Perhaps Reich calls his number more because he agrees with Ebron that the tight end needs to be more involved. But perhaps the game doesn’t work out that way and Ebron has to accept whatever chances he receives. That’s how this works, whether Ebron likes it or not.

If he had made the most of previous opportunities, like not failing to hang onto a key pass for a touchdown in the season opener at Los Angeles, letting it come loose when he hit the ground, perhaps this issue wouldn’t be discussed now. If he caught most of the balls thrown his way, his numbers wouldn’t be down so much.

Should the Colts make an effort to get Ebron the ball more on Sunday, he’d better catch those passes, no excuses. Drop another or two and anything he says publicly or privately falls on deaf ears.

When the season ends, we’ll know soon after if the Colts intend to keep him. It won’t be a surprise if Ballard drafts another tight end, regardless of his decision on Ebron. It’s always better to build from within with players drafted than to count on free agents added.
https://www.si.com/nfl/colts/news/disgruntledericebrondropsproverbialball
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The Ebron trade is a WTF moment for me... we just restructered McDonalds contract why bring Ebron in? Vannett did a fine job as the number 2 TE...

It really makes zero sense the more I think about it.
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