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Subject: 49th pick Fri Apr 24, 2020 11:28 pm
Steelers getting big at WR. I like big WRs.
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solardave
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Subject: Re: 49th pick Sat Apr 25, 2020 5:37 am
I like the first 2 picks. Claypool looks like a beast and Highsmith looks to have a real high ceiling. He doesn't give up on plays. These look to be solid picks who can contribute early on.
Master_Of_Puppets
Posts : 1135 Join date : 2011-04-08
Subject: Re: 49th pick Sat Apr 25, 2020 6:21 am
the best value for round 4 looks to be at OT. or could they go for a qb like fromm ?
Stella Nation
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the best value for round 4 looks to be at OT. or could they go for a qb like fromm ?
If Fromm is still on the board, I wouldn't mind the gamble... Of all those projected 2nd and 3rd round QB's he was the one with the biggest ceiling imo.
I'm ok with our first two picks, but I would've preferred Akers, Dobbins or Cleveland over Chasepool to be honest. When the Seahawks traded up to 48, I thought it was for Chasepool. He was the player I thought both Seattle and us would be interested in but I was wrong there.
solardave
Posts : 4907 Join date : 2011-09-30 Location : State of Confusion
the best value for round 4 looks to be at OT. or could they go for a qb like fromm ?
If Fromm is still on the board, I wouldn't mind the gamble... Of all those projected 2nd and 3rd round QB's he was the one with the biggest ceiling imo.
I'm ok with our first two picks, but I would've preferred Akers, Dobbins or Cleveland over Chasepool to be honest. When the Seahawks traded up to 48, I thought it was for Chasepool. He was the player I thought both Seattle and us would be interested in but I was wrong there.
Just curious (and lazy:chuckle: ). Who did Seattle pick at 48?
Stella Nation
Posts : 1163 Join date : 2015-05-13 Location : Stella City
the best value for round 4 looks to be at OT. or could they go for a qb like fromm ?
If Fromm is still on the board, I wouldn't mind the gamble... Of all those projected 2nd and 3rd round QB's he was the one with the biggest ceiling imo.
I'm ok with our first two picks, but I would've preferred Akers, Dobbins or Cleveland over Chasepool to be honest. When the Seahawks traded up to 48, I thought it was for Chasepool. He was the player I thought both Seattle and us would be interested in but I was wrong there.
Just curious (and lazy:chuckle: ). Who did Seattle pick at 48?
Darrell Taylor, a pass rusher and a surprise pick as he wasn't one of the biggest names on the board at his position. Pretty sure, the Steelers weren't going to draft him but who knows.
the best value for round 4 looks to be at OT. or could they go for a qb like fromm ?
If Fromm is still on the board, I wouldn't mind the gamble... Of all those projected 2nd and 3rd round QB's he was the one with the biggest ceiling imo.
I'm ok with our first two picks, but I would've preferred Akers, Dobbins or Cleveland over Chasepool to be honest. When the Seahawks traded up to 48, I thought it was for Chasepool. He was the player I thought both Seattle and us would be interested in but I was wrong there.
Just curious (and lazy:chuckle: ). Who did Seattle pick at 48?
Darrell Taylor, a pass rusher and a surprise pick as he wasn't one of the biggest names on the board at his position. Pretty sure, the Steelers weren't going to draft him but who knows.
Seattle reached for both their draft picks. Taylor was a shock to me. It's one thing to reach someone a half round or full round ahead, but I thought Taylor was a 4th rounder.
Stella Nation
Posts : 1163 Join date : 2015-05-13 Location : Stella City
the best value for round 4 looks to be at OT. or could they go for a qb like fromm ?
If Fromm is still on the board, I wouldn't mind the gamble... Of all those projected 2nd and 3rd round QB's he was the one with the biggest ceiling imo.
I'm ok with our first two picks, but I would've preferred Akers, Dobbins or Cleveland over Chasepool to be honest. When the Seahawks traded up to 48, I thought it was for Chasepool. He was the player I thought both Seattle and us would be interested in but I was wrong there.
Just curious (and lazy:chuckle: ). Who did Seattle pick at 48?
Darrell Taylor, a pass rusher and a surprise pick as he wasn't one of the biggest names on the board at his position. Pretty sure, the Steelers weren't going to draft him but who knows.
Seattle reached for both their draft picks. Taylor was a shock to me. It's one thing to reach someone a half round or full round ahead, but I thought Taylor was a 4th rounder.
And the worst is that they've trades up 11 spots to get him (he probably still would be there at 60) and they gave up a 3r round pick in the process
Stella Nation
Posts : 1163 Join date : 2015-05-13 Location : Stella City
the best value for round 4 looks to be at OT. or could they go for a qb like fromm ?
If Fromm is still on the board, I wouldn't mind the gamble... Of all those projected 2nd and 3rd round QB's he was the one with the biggest ceiling imo.
I'm ok with our first two picks, but I would've preferred Akers, Dobbins or Cleveland over Chasepool to be honest. When the Seahawks traded up to 48, I thought it was for Chasepool. He was the player I thought both Seattle and us would be interested in but I was wrong there.
I need to correct myself as I meant Eason, not Fromm. It's still early Fromm probably has a higher floor, but Eason has a big arm. If he can work on his soft touch, he can become really good as he also has good field vision. Fromm doesn't really have a strong arm so lesser upside imo.
Heard an interesting comment on Claypool, I think from one of the Bleacher Report draft analysts. He said you can remove the WR from Claypool and put OW, because he's an Offensive Weapon. In the video eff posted above, they say if he was listed as a TE he'd be a 1st round prospect, which does seem about right.
He fell off my radar. I said in another post that when the Steelers come up to pick at #49, 7 OTs and 10 WRs would already be taken. Well, that's about the only thing I got right. My assumption was that with those players gone, you'd still have a pick at a high level RB, which was the case. Either the Steelers valued Claypool more than I or they felt WR would be a better pick than RB. I think MOP was saying you can hand the ball to just about anyone if your O-line is good and that just might be the Steelers' thought process.
Anyways, the thing I like about Claypool is his high ceiling. He's really not a polished receiver. His route running needs to be improved to be an effective NFL WR. And Ben is very picky about the routes his WRs run, the breaks, the speed, and everything else that results in timing. Once he gets that, you have a guy that should be darn near unstoppable.
the best value for round 4 looks to be at OT. or could they go for a qb like fromm ?
If Fromm is still on the board, I wouldn't mind the gamble... Of all those projected 2nd and 3rd round QB's he was the one with the biggest ceiling imo.
I'm ok with our first two picks, but I would've preferred Akers, Dobbins or Cleveland over Chasepool to be honest. When the Seahawks traded up to 48, I thought it was for Chasepool. He was the player I thought both Seattle and us would be interested in but I was wrong there.
Just curious (and lazy:chuckle: ). Who did Seattle pick at 48?
Darrell Taylor, a pass rusher and a surprise pick as he wasn't one of the biggest names on the board at his position. Pretty sure, the Steelers weren't going to draft him but who knows.
Seattle reached for both their draft picks. Taylor was a shock to me. It's one thing to reach someone a half round or full round ahead, but I thought Taylor was a 4th rounder.
And the worst is that they've trades up 11 spots to get him (he probably still would be there at 60) and they gave up a 3r round pick in the process
I think that's the case. I should be fair and say that some did have him graded as a 2nd rounder. But I don't think he was special enough to jump up 11 and get him. Honestly, his play comes off as underwhelming. He has the talent, you can see that. But he doesn't really turn it on. I think at 60 the Seahawks would have had their choice of about 6 guys like this. When they jumped up, I really thought they were trying to get one of the RBs. When that pick came in I couldn't help but laugh.
Add that on top of taking Jordyn Brooks at 27 when Patrick Queen was right there. And damned them for not taking Queen because the Ratbirds got him at 28. Brooks is good, but I thought he was a 2nd rounder. Probably not as much of a reach as Taylor, but still
Stella Nation
Posts : 1163 Join date : 2015-05-13 Location : Stella City
the best value for round 4 looks to be at OT. or could they go for a qb like fromm ?
If Fromm is still on the board, I wouldn't mind the gamble... Of all those projected 2nd and 3rd round QB's he was the one with the biggest ceiling imo.
I'm ok with our first two picks, but I would've preferred Akers, Dobbins or Cleveland over Chasepool to be honest. When the Seahawks traded up to 48, I thought it was for Chasepool. He was the player I thought both Seattle and us would be interested in but I was wrong there.
Just curious (and lazy:chuckle: ). Who did Seattle pick at 48?
Darrell Taylor, a pass rusher and a surprise pick as he wasn't one of the biggest names on the board at his position. Pretty sure, the Steelers weren't going to draft him but who knows.
Seattle reached for both their draft picks. Taylor was a shock to me. It's one thing to reach someone a half round or full round ahead, but I thought Taylor was a 4th rounder.
And the worst is that they've trades up 11 spots to get him (he probably still would be there at 60) and they gave up a 3r round pick in the process
I think that's the case. I should be fair and say that some did have him graded as a 2nd rounder. But I don't think he was special enough to jump up 11 and get him. Honestly, his play comes off as underwhelming. He has the talent, you can see that. But he doesn't really turn it on. I think at 60 the Seahawks would have had their choice of about 6 guys like this. When they jumped up, I really thought they were trying to get one of the RBs. When that pick came in I couldn't help but laugh.
Add that on top of taking Jordyn Brooks at 27 when Patrick Queen was right there. And damned them for not taking Queen because the Ratbirds got him at 28. Brooks is good, but I thought he was a 2nd rounder. Probably not as much of a reach as Taylor, but still
Ravens have a great draft so far Queen, Dobbins, Madubuike and extra picks from the Patriots* Only Tyre Phillips I don't understand with other better OL prospects still available. That seems like a reach to me.
Stella Nation
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Subject: Re: 49th pick Sat Apr 25, 2020 11:58 am
A lot of valuable OL still there in the 4th round for us. Interior: Muti, Lemieux, Kindley, Biadasz, Bredeson and Stenberg, T: Tega Wanogho, Taylor, Driscoll. I hope we get at least one of them. And second pick maybe another OL, DL, RB, LB or Eason or Fromm.
IowaSteeler927
Posts : 4053 Join date : 2015-04-11 Location : The Great State of Iowa
Anyways, the thing I like about Claypool is his high ceiling. He's really not a polished receiver. His route running needs to be improved to be an effective NFL WR. And Ben is very picky about the routes his WRs run, the breaks, the speed, and everything else that results in timing. Once he gets that, you have a guy that should be darn near unstoppable.
This is where I wish we had Hines Ward as our receivers coach. Hines was never fast, but his ability to run the route tree is a big reason as to why he was successful over the course of his career. Guess we'll see what Ike Hilliard can do with him. Claypool has the intangibles to be great, he has to be great at the details, namely route running. If he can polish his route running, watch out.
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effyou515
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Heard an interesting comment on Claypool, I think from one of the Bleacher Report draft analysts. He said you can remove the WR from Claypool and put OW, because he's an Offensive Weapon. In the video eff posted above, they say if he was listed as a TE he'd be a 1st round prospect, which does seem about right.
He fell off my radar. I said in another post that when the Steelers come up to pick at #49, 7 OTs and 10 WRs would already be taken. Well, that's about the only thing I got right. My assumption was that with those players gone, you'd still have a pick at a high level RB, which was the case. Either the Steelers valued Claypool more than I or they felt WR would be a better pick than RB. I think MOP was saying you can hand the ball to just about anyone if your O-line is good and that just might be the Steelers' thought process.
Anyways, the thing I like about Claypool is his high ceiling. He's really not a polished receiver. His route running needs to be improved to be an effective NFL WR. And Ben is very picky about the routes his WRs run, the breaks, the speed, and everything else that results in timing. Once he gets that, you have a guy that should be darn near unstoppable.
I was thinking OT with the pick but I really like this pick for the outside blocking in the running game a smallish TE with WR speed, big target in the redzone who natural knows to go and get the ball. not a polished WR with a lot of up side the Steelers know how to develope WRs. Steelers have 6 6' 200 lbs plus WRs going into camp.
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effyou515
Posts : 3993 Join date : 2011-09-28 Location : from upper Ohio Valley to Conyers Ga.
Subject: Re: 49th pick Thu May 07, 2020 12:57 pm
I like this pick 4th round, good vision, good hands, could be a good one cut up field runner with 4.44 40 speed. not looking for him to be a feature back. Steelers now have some speed in the RB Room with Whyte and McFarland
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Fromm probably has a higher floor, but Eason has a big arm. If he can work on his soft touch, he can become really good as he also has good field vision. Fromm doesn't really have a strong arm so lesser upside imo.
Only Tyre Phillips I don't understand with other better OL prospects still available. That seems like a reach to me.
