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When has Mel Kiper been right?  

NEVER but that doesn't stop him. with the 24th pick of the NFL draft the steelers select.. - Page 4 1797695198

Damn you Kiper! I was hyping that guy as a great 1st round pick. Now it ain't gonna happen because you opened your big mouth!

But I take solace knowing Collins spent a ton of time at ILB and my entire line of taking him early was to put him in the middle (although he is good coming off the edge). So calling him an edge rusher makes you wrong, Mel!

Hell, they aren't going to pick an edge guy in the 1st, with all the gaps they have on this team. If they want to go with an edge rusher and pick him up cheap (3rd or so), meet Bud Dupree's clone: Carlos "Boogie" Basham Jr ...

as far as him being an edge rusher, i don't recall an instance in the highlight videos of his sacks where he actually fought through a block to make the sack. he pretty much came off the edge unchallenged every time. either way his versatility makes him more appealing. i said in another post , i think at the 24th pick he has more value than any of the oline prospects that may be available if the mocks and rankings are somewhat accurate. i do think oline is the bigger need , but passing up on potentially a franchise linebacker to reach for an olinemen would be a bad idea. either go for the value or trade back and get the olinemen.
buy the way , i have read leatherwood has not looked good at the senior bowl , but creed humpfrey is in beast mode. maybe we get pounceys replacement first ?
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Winner: Quinn Meinerz

No one was a bigger winner today than Wisconsin-Whitewater center/guard Quinn Meinerz. A Division III player, Meinerz came into the Senior Bowl with the opportunity to set his stock. In the past, Ali Marpet, Alex Cappa, and last year, Ben Bartch, all made claims and raised their stock as a result of their week in Mobile. Meinerz is doing the same.

At Wisconsin-Whitewater, Meinerz mauled defenders like it was nothing. It turns out that it is translating to the Senior Bowl. Meinerz threw Patrick Jones into the turf in the one-on-ones, mauled Osa Odighizuwa in the team session into the dirt, and otherwise a massive barrier. Meinerz lost maybe once the entire day in one-on-ones and was the best offensive lineman on the National squad today. In addition, he is getting great experience at center and showing he can do it at a high level. He is elevating himself into a Top-100 pick.
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Steelers do draft a QB a QB for the offensive line in Oklahoma Center 6'5" 325lbs Creed Humprhey with their first round pick






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@solardave wrote:
@kirklandrules wrote:
@solardave wrote:
@Great Randino wrote:
When has Mel Kiper been right?  

NEVER but that doesn't stop him. with the 24th pick of the NFL draft the steelers select.. - Page 4 1797695198

Damn you Kiper! I was hyping that guy as a great 1st round pick. Now it ain't gonna happen because you opened your big mouth!

But I take solace knowing Collins spent a ton of time at ILB and my entire line of taking him early was to put him in the middle (although he is good coming off the edge). So calling him an edge rusher makes you wrong, Mel!

Hell, they aren't going to pick an edge guy in the 1st, with all the gaps they have on this team. If they want to go with an edge rusher and pick him up cheap (3rd or so), meet Bud Dupree's clone: Carlos "Boogie" Basham Jr ...


If we pick Basham Jr hopefully he won't take 4 years to develop.

Notice the first year after a certain OLB coach left the Steelers, Dupree exploded. I don't think getting value out of that position will be an issue. with the 24th pick of the NFL draft the steelers select.. - Page 4 1401235891
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@Master_Of_Puppets wrote:

buy the way , i have read leatherwood has not looked good at the senior bowl , but creed humpfrey is in beast mode. maybe we get pounceys replacement first ?

Sucks for Leatherwood.  He can't play poorly in the last meaningful contact before being drafted. Haven't heard of his poor performance and wouldn't feel bad if the Steelers take him. He was the Outland Trophy winner for a reason. with the 24th pick of the NFL draft the steelers select.. - Page 4 2087824411
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of course one day of senior bowl practice can't over ride a season of game film.

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Usually a mainstay at Senior Bowl practices, Mike Tomlin wasn’t spotted at Wednesday’s practice in Mobile. The Steelers’ contingent was reduced because of COVID-19 protocols, but GM Kevin Colbert was there along with a handful of scouts.
— Brooke Pryor (@bepryor) January 27, 2021

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Winner: Creed Humphrey

One of the biggest, if not the biggest winner of the day was Oklahoma’s, Creed Humphrey. Vying for the top center spot in the 2021 NFL Draft, Humphrey put on a show on Tuesday. In one-on-ones, Humphrey stonewalled everyone he faced on the day. Top defensive lineman Levi Onwuzurike was forced completely into the left guard after Humphrey overpowered him. It was a dominant performance. In the team session, Humphrey executed excellent reach blocks and appeared comfortable moving laterally. He is not the best athlete, but it certainly seems he is more than functionally fine. Humphrey will make some team happy once drafted, and it could be Pittsburgh.

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Loser: Alex Leatherwood

Leatherwood is a tough evaluation. There were some obvious issues that would plague him regardless. A good weigh-in showing that Leatherwood had 34-inch arms meant that length was not an issue. However, in one-on-ones, Leatherwood was beaten multiple times. He was lunging forward, got ran through due to high pad level, and his hand usage was erratic and inconsistent. Leatherwood appeared stiff in his lower half, which was always shown on tape. The point is he looked more like a guard than a tackle on Tuesday. That will be a discussion to revisit this entire draft season, and today only fueled those flames.
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Winner: Dillon Radunz

The North Dakota State tackle only played one game over the past year, but there was no rust on Tuesday. Radunz appeared to be right where he belongs. Strong hands, nimble feet, and smooth movement in the open were all on display in both the one-on-ones and the team session. Radunz cleared out an entire side on a zone run in the team session. In one-on-ones, Radunz stymied most of his opponents’ thanks to his athleticism and patience. After his hype had cooled off during the fall, he is doing a nice job to raise it once again.

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Loser: Deonte Brown

Another surprise, Brown appeared overpowered and unsure of himself all day. Brown’s anchor was inconsistent and he played with poor pad level in the entire one-on-one period. There were flashes on tape where he could get stunned, but never anything that substantial as it was on Tuesday. That being said, his tape at Alabama was impressive and he was learning center from former teammate Landon Dickerson. There are some positives for Brown, but he will want to improve throughout the week.
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Here are my 3 round mock:

#24 - Zaven Collins!

Just about every mock I've seen this week has Harris going here. But Collins has the dominating ability that can transform this defense. There were several failed experiments over the past few years to get the right mix of talent in the heart of that squad. Using Mark Barron, then moving Marcus Allen to ILB shows that converting Safeties to ILBs isn't as easy as it sounds. They signed Spillane and Williams to extensions, but that should be viewed as experienced bench players. Spillane did a great job blowing up Henry on the goal-line and actually performed well enough in pass coverage. But there were too many run plays that saw him getting blocked 5-8 yards off the line of scrimmage by an offensive lineman. That's not going to work when facing the Browns and the Ravens, who are in the top of the run teams in the NFL. Williams isn't getting any faster and he wasn't fast to begin with. They thought they had a dark horse candidate who had the right measurables, but Ulysees Gilbert couldn't stay healthy long enough to see the field more than spot duty over 2 years (10 total tackles). Collins and Bush will be a fearsome duo for NFL offenses to face.

#55 - Javonte Williams RB - I would love Harris in the 1st, but the Steelers tend not to use a 1st rounder on RBs. If Williams isn't there at 55, they might go Humphrey and pick up Sermon in the 3rd.
#87 - Josh Myers C - Between Humphrey, Dickerson and Myers, I think one of them falls to #87. If not Quinn Meinerz should be there, he's a mauler.

Anything beyond round 3 is just an absolute guess, so I'll stop there. But here's a few points on why I think they go in the direction above:

  • Tackle - It seems the Steelers think they have their tackles set for next year (Chuks and Banner) and picked up veteran backups. So I don't think they spend early picks on Tackle.
  • Corner - This could be a 1st round pick if the right guy is there. They lost 2 solid CBs and haven't brought anyone in to replace. However, Sutton is the next man up and I think they like Pierre enough to use him as the 3rd CB. Lane can drop the doobage and see if he can contribute to this group. No doubt they add more depth later in the draft and after.
  • Center - I've said it several times, I don't think the talent at Center is 1st round worthy. Does that mean some teams won't take a C in the 1st, nope. But that doesn't mean the Steelers should be that team.
  • TE - If Gentry doesn't step up, the Steelers seem to like Kevin Rader who might be more of a blocking TE. Address ILB, RB, and C this year and go for a TE in the early rounds next year.

There, I threw it out there, now tear it up!
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I think Collins would be a great pick. If Najee Harris is there at 24, I still think we grab him.
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@Great Randino wrote:
I think Collins would be a great pick.  If Najee Harris is there at 24, I still think we grab him.

I'd love to have Harris as a Steeler. Made my mock with the idea that the Steelers have drafted more LBs in the first round than RBs under Colbert (6-1). They picked Mendenhall in the 1st in 2008 because he was supposed to go much higher (fell to them at #23). Prior to that, you have to go back to 1991 and Huey Richardson to get the next 1st round RB.
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History points to them not picking Harris at 24. But I still think he will be the pick if he's there. Time will tell!

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Zaven Collins just went 16th to the Cards.
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Collins just went to Arizona. Please let us get Najee
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I'm gettin' nervous. Kinda wish we'd move up for him but I don't think we will.
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If he gets past Miami I think we are golden.
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Miami went DE.
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Please Front Office don't F it up.
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Darrisaw and Jenkins both on the board with the 24th pick of the NFL draft the steelers select.. - Page 4 1426860608 with the 24th pick of the NFL draft the steelers select.. - Page 4 1426860608 with the 24th pick of the NFL draft the steelers select.. - Page 4 1426860608
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Najee Harris. Got To Be the pick.
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Darrisaw to the Vikes.
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Darrisaw sent to Vikings. Damn.
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NAJEE HARRIS YES
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And they really are that dense. A RB in the 1st round with a OL in total shambles.

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YES!!!!!

Najee Harris!

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Great Pick! Kudos to the Front Office!

Now let's get some line help in Round 2 and 3.
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@jak341 wrote:
And they really are that dense. A RB in the 1st round with a OL in total shambles.

Dude we literally had no run game. NONE.

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