Didn't listen to MM today to hear firsthand, but stay with this story. Watt was the one who declined his exit interview, completely packed everything up and lit out of town.
Watt publicly denied this happens. Madden is doubling down on his story.
Edit: J.J. is also chiming in.
Would love to hear who Mark’s sources are. They certainly can’t be myself, Coach T, Kevin Colbert or Coach Butler. All of whom I met with during exit interviews, prior to packing my own things after a hard fought season trying to give everything I have for the city of Pittsburgh. https://t.co/wqJsGObYp7
Need for rebuild the O line and RB position first.
Also, more rumors popping up that Pouncey is retiring.
Edit: I read somewhere that said if Canada gets the OC position, McFarland is going to get his chance to be the feature back.
speed baby speed, have a QB who beats a defense deep and wide, just make a crack o-line McFarland can take it to the house.
watching the Ohio State vs Maryland game a few years back Ohio State played man defense that year just one defender out of position leaves the lane open is all it takes.
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Part of the challenge is getting the most out of the personnel you have. if your offense requires every lineman to win every battle, you're not going to get far.
An offense like this utilizes a lot more angles and puts players in a much better position to win. It also means you exploit mismatches on the defense so much better. Its like a complete flipping of the script.
Its what is needed in Pittsburgh, and I'm looking forward to seeing it play out on the field.
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Subject: Re: 2021 - 2022 Offseason Moves Tue Jan 26, 2021 8:48 am
Part of the challenge is getting the most out of the personnel you have. if your offense requires every lineman to win every battle, you're not going to get far.
An offense like this utilizes a lot more angles and puts players in a much better position to win. It also means you exploit mismatches on the defense so much better. Its like a complete flipping of the script.
Its what is needed in Pittsburgh, and I'm looking forward to seeing it play out on the field.
I agree. I know Canada will be an improvement for sure. I have to wonder though is he the best man for the job or a cheaper option as OC. I do know we will find out. I noticed watching the KC against the Browns they (KC) used a lot of shifts and it caused the Browns trouble. Most defenses that are any good are also aggressive and what better way to confuse than to be in motion right up until the snap?
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Part of the challenge is getting the most out of the personnel you have. if your offense requires every lineman to win every battle, you're not going to get far.
An offense like this utilizes a lot more angles and puts players in a much better position to win. It also means you exploit mismatches on the defense so much better. Its like a complete flipping of the script.
Its what is needed in Pittsburgh, and I'm looking forward to seeing it play out on the field.
I agree. I know Canada will be an improvement for sure. I have to wonder though is he the best man for the job or a cheaper option as OC. I do know we will find out. I noticed watching the KC against the Browns they (KC) used a lot of shifts and it caused the Browns trouble. Most defenses that are any good are also aggressive and what better way to confuse than to be in motion right up until the snap?
here is another way to look at it the offenses that the Steelers defense has a hard time stopping. zone blocking running game, passing offenses around a QB that gets the ball out quick a Qb that takes what a defense is giving up on each play.
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Subject: Re: 2021 - 2022 Offseason Moves Wed Jan 27, 2021 1:37 am
I'm excited to see what Canada can do now that he has full control of the offense. I think they brought him in as pressure to Randy Fichtner to perform better. He didn't, so Canada got the promotion and Fichtner got shown the door. Now Canada will be able to fully implement his own system and he should have a full offseason and training camp to do it.
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Subject: Re: 2021 - 2022 Offseason Moves Wed Jan 27, 2021 1:40 am
I'm excited to see what Canada can do now that he has full control of the offense. I think they brought him in as pressure to Randy Fichtner to perform better. He didn't, so Canada got the promotion and Fichtner got shown the door. Now Canada will be able to fully implement his own system and he should have a full offseason and training camp to do it.
he will implement what Ben says he can implement.
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Subject: Re: 2021 - 2022 Offseason Moves Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:36 am
I'm excited to see what Canada can do now that he has full control of the offense. I think they brought him in as pressure to Randy Fichtner to perform better. He didn't, so Canada got the promotion and Fichtner got shown the door. Now Canada will be able to fully implement his own system and he should have a full offseason and training camp to do it.
he will implement what Ben says he can implement.
Well I don't think their relationship is as sour as it was alleged to have been between Ben/Haley so I think we'll be alright in that regard.
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Subject: Re: 2021 - 2022 Offseason Moves Wed Jan 27, 2021 3:31 am
I'm excited to see what Canada can do now that he has full control of the offense. I think they brought him in as pressure to Randy Fichtner to perform better. He didn't, so Canada got the promotion and Fichtner got shown the door. Now Canada will be able to fully implement his own system and he should have a full offseason and training camp to do it.
I think he can do a great job and he has some serious WR talent. As long as he doesn't turn into Haley with a huge ego. He hasn't stayed anywhere long. That's my reservation. I believe he's capable and hopefully he's found a home.
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Subject: Re: 2021 - 2022 Offseason Moves Wed Jan 27, 2021 10:57 am
I'm excited to see what Canada can do now that he has full control of the offense. I think they brought him in as pressure to Randy Fichtner to perform better. He didn't, so Canada got the promotion and Fichtner got shown the door. Now Canada will be able to fully implement his own system and he should have a full offseason and training camp to do it.
I think he can do a great job and he has some serious WR talent. As long as he doesn't turn into Haley with a huge ego. He hasn't stayed anywhere long. That's my reservation. I believe he's capable and hopefully he's found a home.
imho... Steelers liked Canada's offense brought him in with the help of Fichner to install his offense, Steelers and Fichner knew there wasn't going to be a new contract for Fichner.
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Steelers talking to former long-time Packers offensive line coach James Campen to be in charge of their offensive line, per source. Campen was with LA Chargers last season but was let go when Anthony Lynn was fired.
I'm excited to see what Canada can do now that he has full control of the offense. I think they brought him in as pressure to Randy Fichtner to perform better. He didn't, so Canada got the promotion and Fichtner got shown the door. Now Canada will be able to fully implement his own system and he should have a full offseason and training camp to do it.
he will implement what Ben says he can implement.
Yup and that's the problem. They need tonlet Ben go. Canada needs to be able to set up his offense not what Ben likes. Ben is done either this year or next and Canada shouldn't have to haggle with a QB that should retire.
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Subject: Re: 2021 - 2022 Offseason Moves Thu Jan 28, 2021 1:06 am
I'm excited to see what Canada can do now that he has full control of the offense. I think they brought him in as pressure to Randy Fichtner to perform better. He didn't, so Canada got the promotion and Fichtner got shown the door. Now Canada will be able to fully implement his own system and he should have a full offseason and training camp to do it.
he will implement what Ben says he can implement.
Yup and that's the problem. They need tonlet Ben go. Canada needs to be able to set up his offense not what Ben likes. Ben is done either this year or next and Canada shouldn't have to haggle with a QB that should retire.
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Subject: Re: 2021 - 2022 Offseason Moves Thu Jan 28, 2021 1:34 am
Steelers owner Art Rooney II said there would have to be "significant concessions" for Ben Roethlisberger to be back with the team in 2021. Roethlisberger's $41.2M cap hit won't work for the Steelers with the reduction in salary cap, Rooney said. It's a loaded statement about a soon-to-be 39-year-old QB who struggled mightily through large parts of the 2020 season. Roethlisberger's adjusted yards per attempt has plummeted over the past couple seasons and he struggled with accuracy at times in 2020, coming off elbow surgery. Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin said "it’s reasonable to assume there is a chance [Ben Roethlisberger] is going to be back, certainly," shortly after the team was embarrassed by the Browns in the Wild Card round. Rooney's statement creates real questions about whether Roethlisberger will give it one last go with Pittsburgh. The Steelers will have to grapple with difficult salary cap decisions in the coming months.
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Subject: Re: 2021 - 2022 Offseason Moves Fri Jan 29, 2021 8:54 am
This is interesting about Dupree. Article says if that number is accurate, Steelers may be in play.
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Subject: Re: 2021 - 2022 Offseason Moves Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:26 am
Ben taking a pay cut to help the team would be nice and it might help him get another shot at a ring if they use the money wisely. However I will believe it when I see it.
Dupree playing on a smaller "show me" contract is silly. There are to many teams with too much money that will want him for more then that. Don't care if his knee was busted, they have that surgery and rehab down to a fine science in the NFL guys are coming back to play as good as ever depending on their age.
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Subject: Re: 2021 - 2022 Offseason Moves Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:36 am
whatever they do i just dont wanna see them push that entire 22 million dead cap onto next years cap. maybe they restructure it and pay him 25 this year instead of 19+22.25 , and lower next years hit to like 18 million. 25 million has been the going rate for these 1 year deals for older qb's. bree's , brady , rivers.
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Subject: Re: 2021 - 2022 Offseason Moves Tue Feb 02, 2021 5:32 am
whatever they do i just dont wanna see them push that entire 22 million dead cap onto next years cap. maybe they restructure it and pay him 25 this year instead of 19+22.25 , and lower next years hit to like 18 million. 25 million has been the going rate for these 1 year deals for older qb's. bree's , brady , rivers.
The FO is all about pushing cap hits and IMHO this is why we have arrived at this point. Since I don't know much about cap rules I'll leave it to the experts. I agree they need to restructure his contract while looking forward to minimizing the future damage. The other thing I don't understand is how teams like Dallas,Washington and the cheaters always seem to have a boatload of cap money available.
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Subject: Re: 2021 - 2022 Offseason Moves Tue Feb 02, 2021 8:42 am
whatever they do i just dont wanna see them push that entire 22 million dead cap onto next years cap. maybe they restructure it and pay him 25 this year instead of 19+22.25 , and lower next years hit to like 18 million. 25 million has been the going rate for these 1 year deals for older qb's. bree's , brady , rivers.
The FO is all about pushing cap hits and IMHO this is why we have arrived at this point. Since I don't know much about cap rules I'll leave it to the experts. I agree they need to restructure his contract while looking forward to minimizing the future damage. The other thing I don't understand is how teams like Dallas,Washington and the cheaters always seem to have a boatload of cap money available.
from what i heard arthur moats say about how it works , it something like this. the guaranteed money / signing bonus money , is actually already paid to the player. they just get to spread the numbers out over the cap . they dont really owe Ben any money they just owe the books. they still got 22.25 they need to write off. since he only has one year left they would need to write it off this year. the 22.25 itself isnt a huge issue, it is the other 19 mill still in the contract. 15 of which is a bonus for just being on the roster after.... march 1st ? they can restructure again and kick that 22.25 or a portion of it by adding more years to the contract. how they end up with this mess is when they restructure, they turn base salary money in to guaranteed money so they can spread it out over the contract. that is why Ben only has a base salary of 4 million dollars this year. they could cut Ben and then resign him for whatever he would be willing to play. then they owe him the 22.25 plus whatever. for me ideally would be Ben playing for like 5 million this year making his cap hit 27.25 million and owing him nothing next year while saving 14 million this year. its just that 15 million roster bonus that needs to go away.
i heard one talking head say Ben has made like 250 million over his career so it is not like he needs the money ...
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Subject: Re: 2021 - 2022 Offseason Moves Wed Feb 03, 2021 4:23 am
I don't know anything about this guy except what I'm reading now. The players seem to really like him and I think he's got to be better than Sarrett.
I wonder how much the exit interviews with the O-linemen played a role in Sarrett's departure I can almost see a scenario where the linemen were telling Tomlin that Klemm was the coach and Sarrett was the assistant.
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Subject: Re: 2021 - 2022 Offseason Moves Wed Feb 03, 2021 11:29 am
I don't know anything about this guy except what I'm reading now. The players seem to really like him and I think he's got to be better than Sarrett.
I wonder how much the exit interviews with the O-linemen played a role in Sarrett's departure I can almost see a scenario where the linemen were telling Tomlin that Klemm was the coach and Sarrett was the assistant.
The numbers don't lie though. The running game was non existent. The line couldn't block. We let the O line coach walk. Why bring in his assistant, who was part of the problem? I don't like the idea of "the players like him, so let's promote him".
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Subject: Re: 2021 - 2022 Offseason Moves Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:04 am
I don't know anything about this guy except what I'm reading now. The players seem to really like him and I think he's got to be better than Sarrett.
I wonder how much the exit interviews with the O-linemen played a role in Sarrett's departure I can almost see a scenario where the linemen were telling Tomlin that Klemm was the coach and Sarrett was the assistant.
I was thinking the same thing after reading how klemm worked with the rookies and back ups. They may think he can groom them into formidable O-lineman.
he will implement what Ben says he can implement. 
I can almost see a scenario where the linemen were telling Tomlin that Klemm was the coach and Sarrett was the assistant.